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/r/altright was banned for doxing. An example can be found on imgur http://imgur.com/a/pZ8yN http://imgur.com/a/pZ8yN where you can see not only doxing, but cro

by Dobbs 10y ago

/r/altright was banned for doxing. An example can be found on imgur http://imgur.com/a/pZ8yN http://imgur.com/a/pZ8yN where you can see not only doxing, but crowd funding to support doxing of an individual they disagreed with.

microcolonel 10y ago
I would disagree with somebody sucker-punching a community member in the face. If there are no other targets this seems entirely legitimate. The ban also seems slightly prejudicial, because on the other side there is /r/antifa where people are bragging[1] about the assault which /r/altright was trying to solve with this bounty. Granted, /r/antifa seems to be mostly dissent against this stuff, so it wouldn't be a subreddit shutdown. I think that assaulting people you disagree with is a far more serious charge than posting a reward for information which leads to the arrest of a criminal. The latter is something befitting of a police agency. [1]: https://www.reddit.com/r/antifa/comments/5r5rlp/ https://www.reddit.com/r/antifa/comments/5r5rlp/
- diyorgasms 10y ago
  /r/antifa is run by neo-nazi squatters who want to make antifa look bad. They probably should be shut down, and there are other places actual activists organize.
  - microcolonel 10y ago
    Not to get too far into it, but it's hard to make antifa look any worse than they actually are. A bunch of cowardly, destructive, eyes-shut communist nincompoops parading around in crowds because they are too timid to stand alone for their indefensibly stupid beliefs; that is, if they're not just there to fit in. I don't think you have to be a neo-nazi to appreciate how pathetic and sad antifa are. I do not think you have to be a neo-nazi to have a knowing laugh about the thumb-sucking intellectual fragility they represent.
- unprepare 10y ago
  if you want to investigate criminal activity, become a police officer. >Vigilante justice often describes the actions of a single person or group of people who claim to enforce the law but lack the legal authority to do so. https://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/vigilante_justice https://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/vigilante_justice
gozur88 10y ago
"[D]oxing of an individual they disagreed with" is an odd way to describe an effort to identify a criminal.
- Dobbs 10y ago
  It is still doxing. It doesn't matter if it is a criminal or not. Reddit doesn't have a place being involved in this. Look at how the Boston Bomber situation turned out. If you think someone commited a crime and you have evidence take it to the police. If they want community help in hunting someone down then they will ask the community.
  - gozur88 10y ago
    >It is still doxing. It doesn't matter if it is a criminal or not. The term "doxing" is almost exclusively used for outing people using pseudonyms online. I've never heard it applied to an attempt to identify a random criminal. >Reddit doesn't have a place being involved in this. Look at how the Boston Bomber situation turned out. And how did that turn out? I mean, in the end. A lynching? I must have missed it. >If you think someone commited a crime and you have evidence take it to the police. If they want community help in hunting someone down then they will ask the community. Sometimes the cops need to be prodded into doing their jobs. I know there are people on the left cheering this assault because they don't like the victim, but I'd really rather not see political violence become commonplace in the US. EDIT: By the way, I like your "If you think someone committed a crime..." formulation, as if there's some question whether or not something illegal happened.

by Dobbs 10y ago

microcolonel 10y ago

I would disagree with somebody sucker-punching a community member in the face. If there are no other targets this seems entirely legitimate. The ban also seems slightly prejudicial, because on the other side there is /r/antifa where people are bragging[1] about the assault which /r/altright was trying to solve with this bounty. Granted, /r/antifa seems to be mostly dissent against this stuff, so it wouldn't be a subreddit shutdown. I think that assaulting people you disagree with is a far more serious charge than posting a reward for information which leads to the arrest of a criminal. The latter is something befitting of a police agency. [1]: https://www.reddit.com/r/antifa/comments/5r5rlp/ https://www.reddit.com/r/antifa/comments/5r5rlp/

diyorgasms 10y ago
/r/antifa is run by neo-nazi squatters who want to make antifa look bad. They probably should be shut down, and there are other places actual activists organize.
- microcolonel 10y ago
  Not to get too far into it, but it's hard to make antifa look any worse than they actually are. A bunch of cowardly, destructive, eyes-shut communist nincompoops parading around in crowds because they are too timid to stand alone for their indefensibly stupid beliefs; that is, if they're not just there to fit in. I don't think you have to be a neo-nazi to appreciate how pathetic and sad antifa are. I do not think you have to be a neo-nazi to have a knowing laugh about the thumb-sucking intellectual fragility they represent.
unprepare 10y ago
if you want to investigate criminal activity, become a police officer. >Vigilante justice often describes the actions of a single person or group of people who claim to enforce the law but lack the legal authority to do so. https://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/vigilante_justice https://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/vigilante_justice

gozur88 10y ago

"[D]oxing of an individual they disagreed with" is an odd way to describe an effort to identify a criminal.

Dobbs 10y ago
It is still doxing. It doesn't matter if it is a criminal or not. Reddit doesn't have a place being involved in this. Look at how the Boston Bomber situation turned out. If you think someone commited a crime and you have evidence take it to the police. If they want community help in hunting someone down then they will ask the community.
- gozur88 10y ago
  >It is still doxing. It doesn't matter if it is a criminal or not. The term "doxing" is almost exclusively used for outing people using pseudonyms online. I've never heard it applied to an attempt to identify a random criminal. >Reddit doesn't have a place being involved in this. Look at how the Boston Bomber situation turned out. And how did that turn out? I mean, in the end. A lynching? I must have missed it. >If you think someone commited a crime and you have evidence take it to the police. If they want community help in hunting someone down then they will ask the community. Sometimes the cops need to be prodded into doing their jobs. I know there are people on the left cheering this assault because they don't like the victim, but I'd really rather not see political violence become commonplace in the US. EDIT: By the way, I like your "If you think someone committed a crime..." formulation, as if there's some question whether or not something illegal happened.