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> The difference is that when NYTimes gets something wrong, it is not out of sheer malice and desire to mislead people That's right, because when Wikileaks rev

by imron 10y ago

> The difference is that when NYTimes gets something wrong, it is not out of sheer malice and desire to mislead people That's right, because when Wikileaks revealed high levels of collusion between media outlets and the DNC/Clinton campaign, placing and pulling articles/stories to present a specific narrative, it wasn't out of desire to mislead, rather it was only a desire to 'correct the record'. /s

intended 10y ago
Which is still business as usual and has solutions elsewhere. America and the world have a situation where advertisers need to prey on the Id and emotions of users in order to sell widgets. The advent of the internet crushed the ability of media firms to stay afloat and replaced the ecosystem with many upstarts who also faced the same pressure. In short there's an overheating attention grabbing system when it comes to the media, which is its own issue that needs to be solved. Unfortunately there's a new hitherto unbelievable problem, where people fabricate complete and utter lies/fiction and can sail it down the streams of social media. This is different from the older issue in that these are not major news agencies, but websites masquerading/camouflaging themselves as a news outlet and fabricating stories designed to directly press emotional buttons without having to deal with facts. A closer model is conspiracy theories.
- imron 10y ago
  > fabricating stories designed to directly press emotional buttons without having to deal with facts. I agree this is a problem. It also happened rather equally on both sides.
  - intended 10y ago
    The sides don't matter. If you really want to know how it works, please take a look at a recent a paper co-authored by Alessandro Bessi. It came out a week ago. It should be accessible for most people on HN.

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> The difference is that when NYTimes gets something wrong, it is not out of sheer malice and desire to mislead people That's right, because when Wikileaks rev

by imron 10y ago

intended 10y ago
Which is still business as usual and has solutions elsewhere. America and the world have a situation where advertisers need to prey on the Id and emotions of users in order to sell widgets. The advent of the internet crushed the ability of media firms to stay afloat and replaced the ecosystem with many upstarts who also faced the same pressure. In short there's an overheating attention grabbing system when it comes to the media, which is its own issue that needs to be solved. Unfortunately there's a new hitherto unbelievable problem, where people fabricate complete and utter lies/fiction and can sail it down the streams of social media. This is different from the older issue in that these are not major news agencies, but websites masquerading/camouflaging themselves as a news outlet and fabricating stories designed to directly press emotional buttons without having to deal with facts. A closer model is conspiracy theories.
- imron 10y ago
  > fabricating stories designed to directly press emotional buttons without having to deal with facts. I agree this is a problem. It also happened rather equally on both sides.
  - intended 10y ago
    The sides don't matter. If you really want to know how it works, please take a look at a recent a paper co-authored by Alessandro Bessi. It came out a week ago. It should be accessible for most people on HN.