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1 Funded Immigrant Founder = 159 U.S. Jobs
- CptJamesCook 10y agoYes, but for every job created in SV, 5 are probably wiped out in middle america lol
- forgotmysn 10y agothat's not really relevant. those jobs will be wiped out regardless of who makes the software.
- oculusthrift 10y agogood. that's a 5x increase of efficiency and should be lauded.
- arbuge 10y agoAlso significant impact: funded immigrants that have founder children. For example, Steve Jobs' biological father was from Syria.
- throwaway37482 10y agoSteves Jobs will be in theory blocked from entering the US if he was a british citizen.
- grzm 10y agoHe wasn't a British citizen and he's no longer with us. I understand the point you're trying to make, but certainly you can find an better example.
- poke111 10y agoEverything looks good when you only count the benefits without considering the costs
- chetanahuja 10y agoAnd what are the costs that need to be considered?
- fullscale 10y agohow many immigrants do not find employment due to education/communication/social skills.
- chetanahuja 10y agoThe US immigration policy is very deliberately focused on giving visas to highly educated people. A large fraction of the visas are actually granted based on immigrants already having job offers. And among the rest who are unemployed, a large fraction is because family members/dependents of, say, H1-B visa holders are not allowed to work by law.
- mavelikara 10y ago> The US immigration policy is very deliberately focused on giving visas to highly educated people. Actually, no. From House Judiciary Committee Chairman Bob Goodlatte's press release today [1] announcing the agenda for the 115th Congress: The House Judiciary Committee will also work to improve the legal immigration system. The United States has the most generous legal immigration system in the world. However, we select less than 12% of immigrants on the basis of the education and skills they can bring to America. And it’s only 5% if you exclude their accompanying family members. Other countries, such as Canada, the U.K., and Australia, select over 60% of immigrants based on skills. In order to remain competitive in the global economy, this must change. [1] https://judiciary.house.gov/press-release/goodlatte-announces-agenda-115th-congress/ https://judiciary.house.gov/press-release/goodlatte-announce...
- bjourne 10y agoThe implication of that article, that immigrants > natives is wrong and is fuel for the altright sentiment.
- jaredklewis 10y agoI don't think that was implied. That immigrant founders tend to be amazing people statistically makes a lot of sense. The US government doesn't just hand out visas. They go to highly educated, successful people. So when comparing the highest achievers from another country with the average achievers from our own country, of course immigrants look good. Comparing our highest achievers with highest achievers from abroad would yield a more even comparison. There are of course also seasonal worker visas and such, but those immigrants are not the ones founding companies (nor stealing jobs unless you want to break your back in a field all day).
- dikdik 10y agoSo we should invest more in education so we can have even more highly educated people? We should also make it easier for people to take risks (one of the most common attributes of successful entrepreneurs is that they came from upper-middle/upper class backgrounds) by providing a better safety net for those that want to venture out on their own. Socialized healthcare, investing more in education so citizens aren't mired in debt, etc are ways to do that. I would venture that at least half of successful entrepreneurs are not special or exceptionally brilliant, but they are intelligent- enough, well-off enough to take "risks" over and over, and connected-enough to get others to help with those plans. We have a massive pool of Americans that could do a hell of a lot more for the country if everyone were given the same opportunity that the top 10% get.
- falcolas 10y agoHow many US jobs are created by funding one US founder? I can't imagine why the number would be all that different. Of course, with few exceptions, most of us in the US aren't more than a couple of generations away from our immigrant roots.
- ChefDenominator 10y agoWhy is this an argument against blocking immigration, and not an argument against bombing those people?
- fd5773 10y agoThe USA is the most immoral country. Name any other country that, by stealing the best and brightest away, leaves so many other countries impoverished by the dispossession of that talent.