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Try this link instead: https://area51.stackexchange.com/proposals/106514 https://area51.stackexchange.com/proposals/106514 If you change the proposal # to 106

Try this link instead: https://area51.stackexchange.com/proposals/106514 https://area51.stackexchange.com/proposals/106514 If you change the proposal # to 106514, it instead redirects to your link with 106514 as the question instead: https://area51.stackexchange.com/proposals/106513/parliamentary-procedure/106514#106514 https://area51.stackexchange.com/proposals/106513/parliament... So that ID is used for both proposals and questions within area51.

saycheese 10y ago
You're right, for example ID 7 is a question, linked to proposal ID 4 - and you can't even iterate over the IDs to get a count, since it appears they delete the questions with the proposals, but list the deleted URL as a proposal. Example of a deleted URL: https://area51.stackexchange.com/proposals/3 https://area51.stackexchange.com/proposals/3
- teh_klev 10y ago
  You can search for "closed:1" in the search box and that apparently lists all the closed proposals. That search returns 59 proposals that were suggested then closed. However there seems to be two types of "Closed". I'd also search for just "closed" and in the results there are proposals with a grey box and the word "Closed" which aren't in the "closed:1" results. There's eleven of those. So over time it appears there's been 70 or so proposals suggested that never made it to beta launch. There may be more that age, eventually fall off the front end and are "deleted" and possibly not visible to low rep users, much in the same way the rest of the sites work, i.e. you need at least 10k to be able to see deleted posts [0]. I've only got 1350 rep in Area51 so there may be very old deleted proposals I can't see. [0]: http://stackoverflow.com/help/privileges/moderator-tools http://stackoverflow.com/help/privileges/moderator-tools
  - saycheese 10y ago
    10k is the rep SO requires to access mid tool, the rep required per SE varies based on the reps of the users with the most reps; SO has the highest rep users of all the SE sites. For example, 2k is the rep require on this SE: https://3dprinting.stackexchange.com//help/privileges/moderator-tools https://3dprinting.stackexchange.com//help/privileges/modera... Area51 doesn't appear to allow users to access the mod tools; might be wrong, but the URL pattern to view the rep required to access. If tools works on most SE sites, but it doesn't work on Area51.
    - teh_klev 10y ago
      > rep required per SE varies I'd totally forgotten about that. > Area51 doesn't appear to allow users to access the mod tools From what I've read in meta.SE and discussion.area51, the current running codebase is kind of a fork of the original SO code (call it v1) so is quite old and isn't getting features backported to it (such as the mod tools): http://meta.stackexchange.com/questions/263486/remove-gravatar-requirement-from-area-51-please#comment857121_263486 http://meta.stackexchange.com/questions/263486/remove-gravat... There's this Q&A on meta.SE from 2015 about the future of Area51: http://meta.stackexchange.com/questions/263494/whats-going-on-with-area-51 http://meta.stackexchange.com/questions/263494/whats-going-o... I haven't been able to find any recent mentions of what the future holds for Area51. I guess a follow up question to "What's going on with Area 51" might now hurt and could elicit new information.
      - saycheese 10y ago
        Agree, it's a fork, and was never merged back with the main branch as it was updated. Area 52 has been on hold for years: http://discuss.area51.stackexchange.com/questions/5089/next-generation-of-area-51/5102 http://discuss.area51.stackexchange.com/questions/5089/next-... Robert knows Area 51 isn't working, but given there's no other way to launch an SE users use it and SE as a result doesn't replace it because they're not interested in the long tail of active Q&A communities; last I checked, it takes them months, if not years to move a site from beta to live even after the community mets SE's requirements. Basically, SE changed their past policies to avoid building Area 52 and SE has no idea what a working Area 52 would be. If you want an SE, you've got to understand how Area 51 works, get all of your ducks in a row, then roll through it and the beta; otherwise your just asking for problems and leaving it up to SE to help, which is problematic. To me, the more interesting question would be what are the numbers since launch for Area 51's launch funnel; that is from submitting a proposal, de-duplicating it, (etc), site leaves beta.
        Shog9 10y ago
        If you're interested in this, post a question on Meta Stack Exchange; I can pull numbers if you have a concrete idea of you want data for.
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saycheese 10y ago

You're right, for example ID 7 is a question, linked to proposal ID 4 - and you can't even iterate over the IDs to get a count, since it appears they delete the questions with the proposals, but list the deleted URL as a proposal. Example of a deleted URL: https://area51.stackexchange.com/proposals/3 https://area51.stackexchange.com/proposals/3

teh_klev 10y ago
You can search for "closed:1" in the search box and that apparently lists all the closed proposals. That search returns 59 proposals that were suggested then closed. However there seems to be two types of "Closed". I'd also search for just "closed" and in the results there are proposals with a grey box and the word "Closed" which aren't in the "closed:1" results. There's eleven of those. So over time it appears there's been 70 or so proposals suggested that never made it to beta launch. There may be more that age, eventually fall off the front end and are "deleted" and possibly not visible to low rep users, much in the same way the rest of the sites work, i.e. you need at least 10k to be able to see deleted posts [0]. I've only got 1350 rep in Area51 so there may be very old deleted proposals I can't see. [0]: http://stackoverflow.com/help/privileges/moderator-tools http://stackoverflow.com/help/privileges/moderator-tools
- saycheese 10y ago
  10k is the rep SO requires to access mid tool, the rep required per SE varies based on the reps of the users with the most reps; SO has the highest rep users of all the SE sites. For example, 2k is the rep require on this SE: https://3dprinting.stackexchange.com//help/privileges/moderator-tools https://3dprinting.stackexchange.com//help/privileges/modera... Area51 doesn't appear to allow users to access the mod tools; might be wrong, but the URL pattern to view the rep required to access. If tools works on most SE sites, but it doesn't work on Area51.
  - teh_klev 10y ago
    > rep required per SE varies I'd totally forgotten about that. > Area51 doesn't appear to allow users to access the mod tools From what I've read in meta.SE and discussion.area51, the current running codebase is kind of a fork of the original SO code (call it v1) so is quite old and isn't getting features backported to it (such as the mod tools): http://meta.stackexchange.com/questions/263486/remove-gravatar-requirement-from-area-51-please#comment857121_263486 http://meta.stackexchange.com/questions/263486/remove-gravat... There's this Q&A on meta.SE from 2015 about the future of Area51: http://meta.stackexchange.com/questions/263494/whats-going-on-with-area-51 http://meta.stackexchange.com/questions/263494/whats-going-o... I haven't been able to find any recent mentions of what the future holds for Area51. I guess a follow up question to "What's going on with Area 51" might now hurt and could elicit new information.
    - saycheese 10y ago
      Agree, it's a fork, and was never merged back with the main branch as it was updated. Area 52 has been on hold for years: http://discuss.area51.stackexchange.com/questions/5089/next-generation-of-area-51/5102 http://discuss.area51.stackexchange.com/questions/5089/next-... Robert knows Area 51 isn't working, but given there's no other way to launch an SE users use it and SE as a result doesn't replace it because they're not interested in the long tail of active Q&A communities; last I checked, it takes them months, if not years to move a site from beta to live even after the community mets SE's requirements. Basically, SE changed their past policies to avoid building Area 52 and SE has no idea what a working Area 52 would be. If you want an SE, you've got to understand how Area 51 works, get all of your ducks in a row, then roll through it and the beta; otherwise your just asking for problems and leaving it up to SE to help, which is problematic. To me, the more interesting question would be what are the numbers since launch for Area 51's launch funnel; that is from submitting a proposal, de-duplicating it, (etc), site leaves beta.
      - Shog9 10y ago
        If you're interested in this, post a question on Meta Stack Exchange; I can pull numbers if you have a concrete idea of you want data for.

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