3 ms·

Tldr: New Zealand is corrupt and Peter Thiel bought citizenship without ever living there. There is no mention of his helping revive the Trump campaign and how

Tldr: New Zealand is corrupt and Peter Thiel bought citizenship without ever living there. There is no mention of his helping revive the Trump campaign and how you should think "Peter Thiel" and his investments every time an executive action oppresses someone during this administration...so let's not go there.

tim333 10y ago
They gave him citizenship after he invested $7m and gave $1m to charity there. That's not really corrupt - in most countries you can move there through investing. Corrupt is when you give an envelope of cash to an official. NZ actually ranks joint #1 least corrupt country in the world with Denmark. USA is #18. http://www.transparency.org/news/feature/corruption_perceptions_index_2016 http://www.transparency.org/news/feature/corruption_percepti...
- arcticbull 10y ago
  Generally you stop at permanent residency (US EB-5, for instance) and can't really buy citizenship. Notable exception of course being Malta as a path to EU citizenship (pretty cheap, actually, some 650,000EUR [1] [1] http://csbgroup.com/relocation/citizenship/malta-individual-investor-programme-iip/ http://csbgroup.com/relocation/citizenship/malta-individual-...
tomp 10y ago
Did you also think "Bill Gates" whenever Obama droned and killed someone (he was one of his supporters/donors)?
- fighttf 10y ago
  Yes, Obama killed terrorist. He also got Osama. I will not cry for them. There was collateral damage, I feel bad for that. What was your point again?
  - hutzlibu 10y ago
    Nothing, its totally legit to kill people, if there is a cellphone among them, that might belong to somebody opposed the US. Hence the awesome success and ongoing love for US in those areas. Which is easy to counter with more drones, I guess. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/civilian-deaths-drone-strikes_us_561fafe2e4b028dd7ea6c4ff http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/civilian-deaths-drone-st...
  - tomp 10y ago
    > terrorist [...] I will not cry for them. Isn't this exactly the same justification that Trump uses?
charlesdm 10y ago
If there's a law that allows for requirements to be waived in certain situations ("extraordinary ability"), I don't see how that is corrupt. Unfair? Maybe. But most countries tend to give passports and/or residency rights to people investing a significant amount of money.

tim333 10y ago

They gave him citizenship after he invested $7m and gave $1m to charity there. That's not really corrupt - in most countries you can move there through investing. Corrupt is when you give an envelope of cash to an official. NZ actually ranks joint #1 least corrupt country in the world with Denmark. USA is #18. http://www.transparency.org/news/feature/corruption_perceptions_index_2016 http://www.transparency.org/news/feature/corruption_percepti...

arcticbull 10y ago
Generally you stop at permanent residency (US EB-5, for instance) and can't really buy citizenship. Notable exception of course being Malta as a path to EU citizenship (pretty cheap, actually, some 650,000EUR [1] [1] http://csbgroup.com/relocation/citizenship/malta-individual-investor-programme-iip/ http://csbgroup.com/relocation/citizenship/malta-individual-...

tomp 10y ago

Did you also think "Bill Gates" whenever Obama droned and killed someone (he was one of his supporters/donors)?

fighttf 10y ago
Yes, Obama killed terrorist. He also got Osama. I will not cry for them. There was collateral damage, I feel bad for that. What was your point again?
- hutzlibu 10y ago
  Nothing, its totally legit to kill people, if there is a cellphone among them, that might belong to somebody opposed the US. Hence the awesome success and ongoing love for US in those areas. Which is easy to counter with more drones, I guess. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/civilian-deaths-drone-strikes_us_561fafe2e4b028dd7ea6c4ff http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/civilian-deaths-drone-st...
- tomp 10y ago
  > terrorist [...] I will not cry for them. Isn't this exactly the same justification that Trump uses?

charlesdm 10y ago

If there's a law that allows for requirements to be waived in certain situations ("extraordinary ability"), I don't see how that is corrupt. Unfair? Maybe. But most countries tend to give passports and/or residency rights to people investing a significant amount of money.