I appreciate your point of view, but I disagree with your conclusions. Let me explain. > If the idea is good you'll get the vote. That's true of most submi

I appreciate your point of view, but I disagree with your conclusions. Let me explain. > If the idea is good you'll get the vote. That's true of most submissions, but doesn't seem to be true of polls. > Nobody is going to withhold the votes in order to not give you the karma. I think there will be people who vote and move on without thinking to upvote it. Because of that, I wanted to remind people to up-vote the submission. However, there are people who resent being asked for up-votes, and I wanted to make sure they weren't annoyed by that. I don't want to annoy people gratuitously, and this is the technique I have. People who don't care about karma, whatever, won't care (mostly). People who do care about karma, whatever, have a means of punishing me for asking. > Polls usually don't get a lot of upvotes unless the poll subject is really good. Exactly, that's why I wanted to ask for upmods - to buck that trend. So here's a summary of my reasoning: * Some people vote and move on without upmodding * I want them to upmod so the item has a chance to get enough votes to be vaguely meaningful * That means I need to ask for upmods * Some people resent that, so I need some way they can punish me * The "scapegoat comment" seems to satisfy that.