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Why would they try to recruit from Microsoft? Most of the software engineers at Microsoft are not focused on developing scalable web services architectures. And

by hueving 10y ago

Why would they try to recruit from Microsoft? Most of the software engineers at Microsoft are not focused on developing scalable web services architectures. And the ones that do have built up all of their expertise with Microsoft technologies (.net running on Windows server talking to mssql). >Microsoft and others that have top talent/domain expertise, will have the advantage. Again, Microsoft isn't even in this same field (git hosting) or if they are, are effectively irrelevant due to little market/mindshare. Are you an employee there or something?

throwaway3347 10y ago
> Why would they try to recruit from Microsoft? I'm not sure if you read my post correctly, but I never mentioned poaching from Microsoft. I said compete for programmers that would choose to work for Microsoft. I'm also not sure if you understand what Microsoft does. It's a very diverse company with R&D spending that rivals some small nations. > Microsoft isn't even in this same field (git hosting I guess you haven't heard of https://www.visualstudio.com/team-services/ https://www.visualstudio.com/team-services/ and their on premise TFS solution that supports Git. Microsoft understands Enterprise and it's quite obvious they want to be a major provider for Git hosting. It will be foolish to believe Microsoft is not focused on owning the Git mindshare in Enterprise. > Are you an employee there or something No. Just somebody that understands this problem space.
benaiah 10y ago
> Most of the software engineers at Microsoft are not focused on developing scalable web services architectures. Uh, MS literally runs Azure, which may not be the biggest IAAS offering, but is certainly vastly larger and more complex than Gitlab. There are certainly numerous engineers at MS who would have experience relevant to Gitlab (though perhaps not with their particular tech stack). It may not be most of the engineers there, but in a company with literally tens of thousands of engineers, there are few things that will be true of most of them. > Microsoft isn't even in this same field (git hosting) How is what they're hosting at all relevant to the problem at hand? This could have happened regardless of what the end product was - it's a database issue. In fact, the git infrastructure was explicitly not involved in this issue - it was only their DB-backed features that had data loss. Additionally, Microsoft is in the business of git hosting, if only tangentially. TFS supports git, and has since 2013: https://blogs.msdn.microsoft.com/mvpawardprogram/2013/11/13/git-for-tfs-2013/ https://blogs.msdn.microsoft.com/mvpawardprogram/2013/11/13/... Your objection is both unkind and factually incorrect. The "mindshare" comment is a bit silly - even though they may not be as active on forums like HN, developers working on MS technologies are still one of the largest groups in programming (as a non-MS developer looking for work in the Pacific Northwest, this is something I'm constantly reminded of). I doubt your estimate of Microsoft's real mindshare is anything close to accurate. > Are you an employee there or something? This accusation is eminently not in the spirit of HN, and Microsoft was hardly the only company he mentioned. Whatever your personal vendetta against them, it's absurd to think that Microsoft is not one of the top pools of talent in tech - they're a huge company with a vast variety of offerings and divisions.
oblio 10y ago
Hotmail, MSN, Skype, msdn.com, microsoft.com, the Windows Update Servers, Azure. Microsoft has a ton of people with experience in building cloud system, either in-house people or people from aquisitions. Microsoft has so many employees and domains of activity that you can probably find an engineer for any domain you're looking for.
rrdelaney 10y ago
One of the main drivers of revenue for Microsoft is Office 365, with 23.1 million subscribers[0]. Along with Azure, MS runs some of the largest web services around. Most developers at MS don't necessarily work on these products, but to say that all the devs working on them use a simple .NET stack + SQL Server is discrediting a lot of work that they do. Disclaimer: I work for Microsoft in the Office division and opinions are my own [0] https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/Investor/earnings/FY-2016-Q4/press-release-webcast https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/Investor/earnings/FY-2016-Q4...
- Zelmor 10y ago
  >I work for Microsoft in the Office division Hey there, honest question incoming. Any chances of you chaps making Word a better documentation tool in the future? Edit history storing formatting and data changes on the same tree is making it impossible to use Word for anything serious. This really comes to light once you start working at an MS tech company on documentation, where it is obvious that you should use MS products for work. Some tech writers I know just end up using separate technology branches for their group efforts, since neither Sharepoint nor Word is a professional tool for this job.

by hueving 10y ago

throwaway3347 10y ago

> Why would they try to recruit from Microsoft? I'm not sure if you read my post correctly, but I never mentioned poaching from Microsoft. I said compete for programmers that would choose to work for Microsoft. I'm also not sure if you understand what Microsoft does. It's a very diverse company with R&D spending that rivals some small nations. > Microsoft isn't even in this same field (git hosting I guess you haven't heard of https://www.visualstudio.com/team-services/ https://www.visualstudio.com/team-services/ and their on premise TFS solution that supports Git. Microsoft understands Enterprise and it's quite obvious they want to be a major provider for Git hosting. It will be foolish to believe Microsoft is not focused on owning the Git mindshare in Enterprise. > Are you an employee there or something No. Just somebody that understands this problem space.

benaiah 10y ago

> Most of the software engineers at Microsoft are not focused on developing scalable web services architectures. Uh, MS literally runs Azure, which may not be the biggest IAAS offering, but is certainly vastly larger and more complex than Gitlab. There are certainly numerous engineers at MS who would have experience relevant to Gitlab (though perhaps not with their particular tech stack). It may not be most of the engineers there, but in a company with literally tens of thousands of engineers, there are few things that will be true of most of them. > Microsoft isn't even in this same field (git hosting) How is what they're hosting at all relevant to the problem at hand? This could have happened regardless of what the end product was - it's a database issue. In fact, the git infrastructure was explicitly not involved in this issue - it was only their DB-backed features that had data loss. Additionally, Microsoft is in the business of git hosting, if only tangentially. TFS supports git, and has since 2013: https://blogs.msdn.microsoft.com/mvpawardprogram/2013/11/13/git-for-tfs-2013/ https://blogs.msdn.microsoft.com/mvpawardprogram/2013/11/13/... Your objection is both unkind and factually incorrect. The "mindshare" comment is a bit silly - even though they may not be as active on forums like HN, developers working on MS technologies are still one of the largest groups in programming (as a non-MS developer looking for work in the Pacific Northwest, this is something I'm constantly reminded of). I doubt your estimate of Microsoft's real mindshare is anything close to accurate. > Are you an employee there or something? This accusation is eminently not in the spirit of HN, and Microsoft was hardly the only company he mentioned. Whatever your personal vendetta against them, it's absurd to think that Microsoft is not one of the top pools of talent in tech - they're a huge company with a vast variety of offerings and divisions.

oblio 10y ago

Hotmail, MSN, Skype, msdn.com, microsoft.com, the Windows Update Servers, Azure. Microsoft has a ton of people with experience in building cloud system, either in-house people or people from aquisitions. Microsoft has so many employees and domains of activity that you can probably find an engineer for any domain you're looking for.

rrdelaney 10y ago

One of the main drivers of revenue for Microsoft is Office 365, with 23.1 million subscribers[0]. Along with Azure, MS runs some of the largest web services around. Most developers at MS don't necessarily work on these products, but to say that all the devs working on them use a simple .NET stack + SQL Server is discrediting a lot of work that they do. Disclaimer: I work for Microsoft in the Office division and opinions are my own [0] https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/Investor/earnings/FY-2016-Q4/press-release-webcast https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/Investor/earnings/FY-2016-Q4...

Zelmor 10y ago
>I work for Microsoft in the Office division Hey there, honest question incoming. Any chances of you chaps making Word a better documentation tool in the future? Edit history storing formatting and data changes on the same tree is making it impossible to use Word for anything serious. This really comes to light once you start working at an MS tech company on documentation, where it is obvious that you should use MS products for work. Some tech writers I know just end up using separate technology branches for their group efforts, since neither Sharepoint nor Word is a professional tool for this job.