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I'm glad you posted it because it shows how little people understand their engineer's financial importance. Granted, engineers are required to create products
by brilliantcode 10y ago
I'm glad you posted it because it shows how little people understand their engineer's financial importance.
Granted, engineers are required to create products and maintain it. You need product to sell.
But at the marginal level for every dollar your sales person makes your engineer is not. You might argue but the product is generating revenues but that's not what drives a sale. A sale is a function of value derived from the product and the price paid for it. Engineers aren't driving the sale unless the product itself is a developer tool. But even in that case the top level business controllers will always have the final say. In the end, buying such developer centric tool is about minimizing cost expenditure.
There is critical proprietary knowledge and experience that is formed from a sales person that is driving revenues. Businesses do not want to lose the hen that lays the golden egg as they are hard and expensive to replace.
Engineers on the other hand are easily replaceable and are expensive because they cannot generate revenues. They are not efficient when pulled away to a sales meeting from the work they are doing. Their knowledge and skill costs businesses time and money with no way to get it back directly. It must be sold, money collected and redistributed to all the payrolls. That's the main risk a business owner or a CEO is dealing with where as the engineer collects a cheque at the end of the month with little to no concern or exposure to that risk.
Society rewards risk takers disproportionately at the corporate level. Even if it's tough to measure to the Board and investors losing a C-level executive is always going to be more impactful than a senior engineer who has far more workers to replace him as a result of being cost intensive.
Find me an engineer that can code and sell, now that is a truly rare hybrid, a mewtwo, but it will still be more expensive than a guy who just sells (and does well).
A poor salesman understands this better than anyone, his weight is worth the revenues he generates. For engineers it's the efficiency / dollar or output / dollar that they are competing against which is always headed towards commoditization and any business would replace them with an AI that can code if they could if it cost less.
- maverick_iceman 10y agoIf good engineers are dime a dozen then why do they command >200k salary? I don't think you understand how much skill and practice goes into making a good programmer. Your ignorance is truly astonishing.
- baq 10y agoI find this thread mildly amusing. It's like both engineers and businessmen thought themselves irreplaceable. And yet, 'The graveyards are full of indispensable men.'
- brilliantcode 10y agoAnd for every engineer earning 200k salary in SV how many are earning less than that? I don't think you are seeing the bigger picture of the labor market instead basing it off of biased observation.