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What makes it the best Macbook you've ever owned?

by pw 10y ago

pyrophane 10y ago
Not the above commenter but I have the new 15 and I second that. Speakers are better, trackpad is better, keyboard is (in my opinion, anyway) better, touchID is nice, and it is lighter and thinner. I don't use peripherals much at all, so the lack of legacy ports doesn't bother me. Only downsides are slightly worse battery life overall and occasional accidental activation of the emojibar.
- TheOneTrueKyle 10y ago
  I honestly wasn't too concerned with the touchpad issue as others. But I recently got a chance to play with one and man did I hate that keyboard. It feels cheap and wasn't as productive on it. I played with it for 5 minutes so take this with a grain of salt
  - sxg 10y ago
    Most of the hate I see on the keyboard is from people who've only spent a few minutes on it. After a few days you get used to it and don't even think twice about it. I've regularly measured my typing speed with my old retina MBP and my new one as well as my DAS keyboard with cherry red switches, and I get about the same speed +/-5 wpm across all of them. I'm going to rant here for a minute: IMO keyboards are a great example of "bike shedding" and the law of triviality. There are tons of options for layouts, key mechanics/switches, etc and everyone has to use a keyboard, so everyone has their preferences. At the end of the day, the only objective way to compare keyboards is by your max typing speed, but this metric is almost 100% irrelevant. When does anyone ever type at their max speed for any practical purpose? For most people, the worst a keyboard can be is mildly annoying. At best, you'll forget you're even using one. Don't even get me started on people who learn Dvorak for speed or practicality...
    - gurkendoktor 10y ago
      Besides max typing speed, there's another objective metric: noise. Loud typing is mildly annoying in the office, it's offensively annoying on a train, it's distracting in a conference. Even if I could get used to everything about the new MBP's keyboard, buying a laptop that is noticeably louder feels like a really selfish move.
tptacek 10y ago
Lighter, tighter, better screen, fantastic keyboard, better speakers --- and is this really the MBP without a "real" touchpad? Like, this is simulated clicking?
- mcintyre1994 10y ago
  The 2015 model has the trackpad too, it's amazing - try using it powered off and you'll see!
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bluedino 10y ago
Think MacBook Air 11" with an amazing, actually usable screen (compared to the old 768p screen), and even trimmer size.

What makes it the best Macbook you've ever owned?

by pw 10y ago

What makes it the best Macbook you've ever owned?

Not the above commenter but I have the new 15 and I second that. Speakers are better, trackpad is better, keyboard is (in my opinion, anyway) better, touchID is nice, and it is lighter and thinner. I don't use peripherals much at all, so the lack of legacy ports doesn't bother me. Only downsides are slightly worse battery life overall and occasional accidental activation of the emojibar.

TheOneTrueKyle 10y ago
I honestly wasn't too concerned with the touchpad issue as others. But I recently got a chance to play with one and man did I hate that keyboard. It feels cheap and wasn't as productive on it. I played with it for 5 minutes so take this with a grain of salt
- sxg 10y ago
  Most of the hate I see on the keyboard is from people who've only spent a few minutes on it. After a few days you get used to it and don't even think twice about it. I've regularly measured my typing speed with my old retina MBP and my new one as well as my DAS keyboard with cherry red switches, and I get about the same speed +/-5 wpm across all of them. I'm going to rant here for a minute: IMO keyboards are a great example of "bike shedding" and the law of triviality. There are tons of options for layouts, key mechanics/switches, etc and everyone has to use a keyboard, so everyone has their preferences. At the end of the day, the only objective way to compare keyboards is by your max typing speed, but this metric is almost 100% irrelevant. When does anyone ever type at their max speed for any practical purpose? For most people, the worst a keyboard can be is mildly annoying. At best, you'll forget you're even using one. Don't even get me started on people who learn Dvorak for speed or practicality...
  - gurkendoktor 10y ago
    Besides max typing speed, there's another objective metric: noise. Loud typing is mildly annoying in the office, it's offensively annoying on a train, it's distracting in a conference. Even if I could get used to everything about the new MBP's keyboard, buying a laptop that is noticeably louder feels like a really selfish move.

tptacek 10y ago

Lighter, tighter, better screen, fantastic keyboard, better speakers --- and is this really the MBP without a "real" touchpad? Like, this is simulated clicking?

mcintyre1994 10y ago
The 2015 model has the trackpad too, it's amazing - try using it powered off and you'll see!
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bluedino 10y ago

Think MacBook Air 11" with an amazing, actually usable screen (compared to the old 768p screen), and even trimmer size.