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You know, I was starting to address your first two paragraphs, then my eye went to your last one: "Your comment has you sounding like a fascist. I'm sorry you

You know, I was starting to address your first two paragraphs, then my eye went to your last one: "Your comment has you sounding like a fascist. I'm sorry you can't see that." If you've already convinced yourself that I'm a fascist, then you've shut down the conversation. Nothing I can possibly say can change your thinking, because even if I'm redeemable as a person it will be because I have rejected my irredeemable position, which is apparently fascism. Which is unlikely, because you've assessed me as incapable of observing reality. And this, in a nutshell, is why Trump won.

caseydurfee 10y ago
You think Trump won because someone on the internet pointed out the way you tried to phrase your argument made you sound like a fascist? Come on. You made several explicitly authoritarian points, didn't you? As a 3rd party observer, it appears you're just trying to shut down the conversation because you don't have a rebuttal to the fact that revoking already granted visas is illegal. Or that Trump has already started messing with reproductive rights. Or accusing the AG of being a terrorist for following the Geneva Convention rather than obeying an illegal executive order. Because you can't address the substance, you're going to jump right to tone policing: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tone_policing https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tone_policing "This is why Trump won" is now just the lazy rejoinder that authoritarian people now use when they don't have any other response. It's something your brain produces to explain why you don't have to admit you lost the argument. Grow up. It's really tiresome.
freehunter 10y ago
I don't know if you're a fascist, all I know is your original comment was written to defend authoritarian policies. Like I said, the comment sounded like what a fascist would say. Especially the part saying the AG was a terrorist for daring to defy the glorious leader. That's pretty fucked up, you have to understand that. But the fact that your immediate response to that is "wah you hurt my feelings so I'm going home" is doubling concerning. I don't care why Trump won, but you weren't interested in having a conversation in the first place. And you're right, neither am I. I've actually said that before, in a post that you said you didn't read, so I'm not surprised you missed it. But my point remains. Conservatives are always welcome. Small government, in favor of small business, lower regulations, lower taxes, more individual rights. Those are good things. Authoritarians are not. Denying people their rights, regulating bedroom activities, discriminating based on color and religion, trying to make everyone afraid of everyone and everything, demanding 100% obedience or else, those are bad policies and no one should have to put up with it. I can't help the way you come off in your comments, and I can't change your mind. That's not what I'm trying to do. I just want to explain the difference between Trump and a conservative. Because being anti-Trump is not the same as being anti-conservative. Trump is not, in any way, a conservative, so criticisms of his policies are in no way a criticism of conservatives. And this, in a nutshell, is why I don't really care what you have to say.

caseydurfee 10y ago

You think Trump won because someone on the internet pointed out the way you tried to phrase your argument made you sound like a fascist? Come on. You made several explicitly authoritarian points, didn't you? As a 3rd party observer, it appears you're just trying to shut down the conversation because you don't have a rebuttal to the fact that revoking already granted visas is illegal. Or that Trump has already started messing with reproductive rights. Or accusing the AG of being a terrorist for following the Geneva Convention rather than obeying an illegal executive order. Because you can't address the substance, you're going to jump right to tone policing: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tone_policing https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tone_policing "This is why Trump won" is now just the lazy rejoinder that authoritarian people now use when they don't have any other response. It's something your brain produces to explain why you don't have to admit you lost the argument. Grow up. It's really tiresome.

freehunter 10y ago

I don't know if you're a fascist, all I know is your original comment was written to defend authoritarian policies. Like I said, the comment sounded like what a fascist would say. Especially the part saying the AG was a terrorist for daring to defy the glorious leader. That's pretty fucked up, you have to understand that. But the fact that your immediate response to that is "wah you hurt my feelings so I'm going home" is doubling concerning. I don't care why Trump won, but you weren't interested in having a conversation in the first place. And you're right, neither am I. I've actually said that before, in a post that you said you didn't read, so I'm not surprised you missed it. But my point remains. Conservatives are always welcome. Small government, in favor of small business, lower regulations, lower taxes, more individual rights. Those are good things. Authoritarians are not. Denying people their rights, regulating bedroom activities, discriminating based on color and religion, trying to make everyone afraid of everyone and everything, demanding 100% obedience or else, those are bad policies and no one should have to put up with it. I can't help the way you come off in your comments, and I can't change your mind. That's not what I'm trying to do. I just want to explain the difference between Trump and a conservative. Because being anti-Trump is not the same as being anti-conservative. Trump is not, in any way, a conservative, so criticisms of his policies are in no way a criticism of conservatives. And this, in a nutshell, is why I don't really care what you have to say.