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Should a Jewish restaurant be compelled to serve neo-nazis wearing Nazi uniforms?

by TheOsiris 10y ago

Miner49er 10y ago
Probably not. That's a very different situation. Neo-nazis make a choice to be neo-nazis.
- jbmorgado 10y ago
  So, according to your argument, it should be ok to denny someone service based on their religion as well.
  - pshposh 10y ago
    Do you think that would be okay? Are you asking a question?
  - Miner49er 10y ago
    Yeah I suppose. Religion is often not really chosen, but kind of forced onto a person early in life. I suppose the same is likely true for neo Nazis though.
- humanrebar 10y ago
  People don't pick whether God exists.
  - pshposh 10y ago
    Sure they do; it's all in their head.
  - mwfunk 10y ago
    Of course they do. It's impossible to know whether or not God exists based on physical evidence; that's why religion is based on faith and not scientific research. People choose their religious beliefs, or (much more commonly) have them chosen for them. That's faith.
    - humanrebar 10y ago
      You make your best guess about whether God exists. You don't choose if it's true. Also, faith means "trust", not "irrational opinion".
      - maze-le 10y ago
        > faith means "trust", not "irrational opinion". Not quite, faith means "trust" in an "irrational opinion". Howerver, everyone should have the right to trust whatever opinion rational or irrational.
        humanrebar 10y ago
        If you want to be precise, it means "trust in a person" in the original Greek. As in, the New England Patriots have faith in Bill Belichick. That sort of faith can absolutely be rational.
  - camel_Snake 10y ago
    Exactly why you can't discriminate based upon religion.
  - shard 10y ago
    Of course people do. That's why there are many religions with many different gods.
eli_gottlieb 10y ago
Compelled? Well, are there police present to stop the Nazis assaulting the Jews?
efdee 10y ago
Assuming the neo-nazis are there just to eat and not to stir up a fight, I would say yes. But I'm not sure it's legal to walk around in Nazi uniforms.
ScottBurson 10y ago
Yes, I think they should, if they could somehow be confident that their guests would dine in peace and not make trouble. The fact that such confidence could be hard to come by shows that this situation is not really analogous to the wedding photographer situation. You'd have to flip it around to get a better analogy: should a neo-Nazi restaurant be compelled to serve Jews? Clearly yes.

Should a Jewish restaurant be compelled to serve neo-nazis wearing Nazi uniforms?

Miner49er 10y ago

Probably not. That's a very different situation. Neo-nazis make a choice to be neo-nazis.

jbmorgado 10y ago
So, according to your argument, it should be ok to denny someone service based on their religion as well.
- pshposh 10y ago
  Do you think that would be okay? Are you asking a question?
- Miner49er 10y ago
  Yeah I suppose. Religion is often not really chosen, but kind of forced onto a person early in life. I suppose the same is likely true for neo Nazis though.
humanrebar 10y ago
People don't pick whether God exists.
- pshposh 10y ago
  Sure they do; it's all in their head.
- mwfunk 10y ago
  Of course they do. It's impossible to know whether or not God exists based on physical evidence; that's why religion is based on faith and not scientific research. People choose their religious beliefs, or (much more commonly) have them chosen for them. That's faith.
  - humanrebar 10y ago
    You make your best guess about whether God exists. You don't choose if it's true. Also, faith means "trust", not "irrational opinion".
    - maze-le 10y ago
      > faith means "trust", not "irrational opinion". Not quite, faith means "trust" in an "irrational opinion". Howerver, everyone should have the right to trust whatever opinion rational or irrational.
      - humanrebar 10y ago
        If you want to be precise, it means "trust in a person" in the original Greek. As in, the New England Patriots have faith in Bill Belichick. That sort of faith can absolutely be rational.
- camel_Snake 10y ago
  Exactly why you can't discriminate based upon religion.
- shard 10y ago
  Of course people do. That's why there are many religions with many different gods.

eli_gottlieb 10y ago

Compelled? Well, are there police present to stop the Nazis assaulting the Jews?

efdee 10y ago

Assuming the neo-nazis are there just to eat and not to stir up a fight, I would say yes. But I'm not sure it's legal to walk around in Nazi uniforms.

ScottBurson 10y ago

Yes, I think they should, if they could somehow be confident that their guests would dine in peace and not make trouble. The fact that such confidence could be hard to come by shows that this situation is not really analogous to the wedding photographer situation. You'd have to flip it around to get a better analogy: should a neo-Nazi restaurant be compelled to serve Jews? Clearly yes.