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Why not? Mainly because it isn't finished and has a culture of not explaining anything. When man pages start with a few practical real-world examples, I'll thi
by ackfoo 10y ago
Why not? Mainly because it isn't finished and has a culture of not explaining anything.
When man pages start with a few practical real-world examples, I'll think about it.
When some of the more experienced Linux devs figure out a way of purging the stub code created by noobs writing "my first Linux app haw haw" and sending these vile critters on a one-way trip to space, I'll think about it.
Linux needs a benevolent dictator, like Steve Jobs, to tell people, "no, your code is shit, your idea is shit, fuck off" instead of a community that indulges every contribution no matter how lame, stupid, confusing and non-functional it is.
When I can be sure that my package manager won't break "ls" (and every other basic command) while doing a routine installation of a user level application (glibc is now toast; reinstall), I'll think about it.
Linux will stop being garbage when there aren't 17 different places to put everything and every dev assumes that every user knows all of them and is in possession of an encyclopedic knowledge of arcana going back to ENIAC.
Explain everything every time!
- dcdevito 10y ago^ this! I agree wholeheartedly. I was hoping Canonical was going to be this but sadly they have been rather weak.
- dingdingdang 10y agoCanonical seems to embody a company culture which is just about non-directional enough to start mirroring the overall Linux ecosystem culture, so yeah, rather weak.
- AsyncAwait 10y agoThis is so much generic FUD, any specifics of the "garbage" you're talking about. It honestly sounds like the generic FUD that was repeated about Linux a decade ago and you either haven't tried it recently or you haven't learned how to use it.* * There was a post recently on HN, where someone was trying to use Homebrew on Linux, rather than the native package manager.
- dkonofalski 10y agoI've seen you post 10 times in this thread alone with just "Oh, you can't be serious. What BS!" or something along those lines to anyone who has criticized Linux or has said that they just haven't had luck getting it to work. If you can legitimately see the problems with Linux to the average user, then maybe you need to take a few steps back and actually watch someone use it.
- AsyncAwait 10y agoI have asked for specifics, none were given. This generic "Linux sucks!" attitude is not helpful and I don't have a different term for it than FUD. If you want to criticise something, share specifics.
- rhodysurf 10y agoLinux needs a benevolent dictator, like Steve Jobs, to tell people, "no, your code is shit, your idea is shit, fuck off" instead of a community that indulges every contribution no matter how lame, stupid, confusing and non-functional it is. Someone like Linus maybe?
- planteen 10y agoPlease report to us the steps of a "routine instalation of a user level application" breaking glibc on any modern Linux distro so it can be fixed. Otherwise I'm calling FUD.