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> non-male In what way are the genitals of a programming blog author relevant?

exadeci 10y ago
I had the same reaction. Women in IT talk about how hard it is for them not to be judged by their gender but by their skills and yet many of them promote their gender as if it's more important than the skills.
- wingerlang 10y ago
  While the person writing the post pointed it out, only one of the blogs seemed to be about her gender* while the others didn't even mention it as far as I saw. * http://mina.codes/# http://mina.codes/# (extremely so, if I may add)
  - exadeci 10y ago
    Of course, I was talking about the fact that, this comment is the second on this thread and that many women act this way. The best programming girls are usually the ones that don't waste their time with this representation of their gender.
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    - KingMob 10y ago
      Wow. I'll bet some of them talk about gender/feminism/discrimination/etc because of men still calling them "girls".
sharmi 10y ago
Such a collection in one place might be inspiring for some non-male developers ? Some role models to emulate ;) Probably assurance that gender doesn't matter to be accepted and well-regarded?
- ramblerman 10y ago
  > Probably assurance that gender doesn't matter to be accepted and well-regarded? Isn't a list like this the exact opposite of that?
  - nxtrafalgar 10y ago
    What? It is an attempt to normalise the idea that non-male programmers can work and communicate competently in their field. Whether you like it or not, certain elements of the technology community implicitly or explicitly reject this idea. If this idea is normalised, then finally 'gender will not matter'.
    - apeyrard 10y ago
      This is a gendered list of programming blogs, and proudly claims to be gendered. As such, it is quite opposite to the idea that gender doesn't matter.
nxtrafalgar 10y ago
Some people might wish to diversify the range of blog authors they read. Contrary to the implicit assertion you make, nothing -- not even programming (and writing about programming especially) -- is inseparable from identity. Consider, for example, that where someone grew up is likely to influence how they think and write about programming. Why would gender not also have an influence?
obeid 10y ago
The fact you felt compelled enough to pose such a question shows a certain bias in the community that warrants efforts to empower and amplify minorities within the community.
Thrillington 10y ago
It's now been 2 days since this was posted to hacker news. Here's the gender breakdown for the recommended posts: 209 unique males were mentioned 280 times 21 unique females were mentioned 26 times Excluding GP's comment 14 unique females were mentioned 18 times That ratio of 209 male voices to 21 female is the reason the genitals of a programming blog author is relevant. *There were 11 mentions where I was unable to definitively determine gender.
- sigi45 10y ago
  Why? There are studies who say that 90% of developers are male. 10% from 209 is 21.

I had the same reaction. Women in IT talk about how hard it is for them not to be judged by their gender but by their skills and yet many of them promote their gender as if it's more important than the skills.

wingerlang 10y ago
While the person writing the post pointed it out, only one of the blogs seemed to be about her gender* while the others didn't even mention it as far as I saw. * http://mina.codes/# http://mina.codes/# (extremely so, if I may add)
- exadeci 10y ago
  Of course, I was talking about the fact that, this comment is the second on this thread and that many women act this way. The best programming girls are usually the ones that don't waste their time with this representation of their gender.
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  - KingMob 10y ago
    Wow. I'll bet some of them talk about gender/feminism/discrimination/etc because of men still calling them "girls".

sharmi 10y ago

Such a collection in one place might be inspiring for some non-male developers ? Some role models to emulate ;) Probably assurance that gender doesn't matter to be accepted and well-regarded?

ramblerman 10y ago
> Probably assurance that gender doesn't matter to be accepted and well-regarded? Isn't a list like this the exact opposite of that?
- nxtrafalgar 10y ago
  What? It is an attempt to normalise the idea that non-male programmers can work and communicate competently in their field. Whether you like it or not, certain elements of the technology community implicitly or explicitly reject this idea. If this idea is normalised, then finally 'gender will not matter'.
  - apeyrard 10y ago
    This is a gendered list of programming blogs, and proudly claims to be gendered. As such, it is quite opposite to the idea that gender doesn't matter.

nxtrafalgar 10y ago

Some people might wish to diversify the range of blog authors they read. Contrary to the implicit assertion you make, nothing -- not even programming (and writing about programming especially) -- is inseparable from identity. Consider, for example, that where someone grew up is likely to influence how they think and write about programming. Why would gender not also have an influence?

obeid 10y ago

The fact you felt compelled enough to pose such a question shows a certain bias in the community that warrants efforts to empower and amplify minorities within the community.

Thrillington 10y ago

It's now been 2 days since this was posted to hacker news. Here's the gender breakdown for the recommended posts: 209 unique males were mentioned 280 times 21 unique females were mentioned 26 times Excluding GP's comment 14 unique females were mentioned 18 times That ratio of 209 male voices to 21 female is the reason the genitals of a programming blog author is relevant. *There were 11 mentions where I was unable to definitively determine gender.

sigi45 10y ago
Why? There are studies who say that 90% of developers are male. 10% from 209 is 21.