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because apparently we (people on visas) are getting horribly underpaid. Trump supporters keep trumpeting this despite the fact that I don't remember showing any

by serge2k 10y ago

because apparently we (people on visas) are getting horribly underpaid. Trump supporters keep trumpeting this despite the fact that I don't remember showing any of them my pay stubs. I'm sure Brin showing up in person at the protests was totally because a couple hundred google employees getting screwed is going to drastically raise salaries. As for people less competent then me. Maybe they should focus more on improving their skills than on how they are getting fucked by immigrants. Guess what, you'll still be whiny losers if they toss out the H-1Bs tomorrow. You'll still be whiny losers if they start tossing out green card holders. You know why? Because you whine instead of going out and figuring out what you actually need to do in order to get a job.

angry-hacker 10y ago
That was a nice comment. Just like rednecks yelling dumb immigrants fix your own country instead of coming here. In the end, all the people, left or right, are dumb ignorant, bigoted.
- geofft 10y ago
  Except that it's quite not true that all people are dumb, ignorant, and bigoted. Dumbness (or more precisely intelligence) has a distribution over the population, and selective ignorance and bigotry in certain ways is correlated with politics. In particular, eligibility for work visas actively selects for non-dumbness: you have to get hired for a job. Eligibility for birthright citizenship does not. So there are solid reasons to believe that immigrants to a country (any country) are statistically less dumb than native citizens. Immigrants also necessarily have more life experiences and more personal knowledge of people of different backgrounds and origins, which makes them less likely to be ignorant and bigoted, too.
  - angry-hacker 10y ago
    Statistically you can guess all sort of things, like whites are smarter than other races etc. All I was saying is that the parent comment was racist.
    - mercer 10y ago
      How was it racist? At worst it was discriminatory, but then there is literally no way to hire without some degree of discrimination (even if the measure is a perfectly legitimate 'more qualified for the job'). Let's not abuse the term 'racism'.

by serge2k 10y ago

angry-hacker 10y ago

That was a nice comment. Just like rednecks yelling dumb immigrants fix your own country instead of coming here. In the end, all the people, left or right, are dumb ignorant, bigoted.

geofft 10y ago
Except that it's quite not true that all people are dumb, ignorant, and bigoted. Dumbness (or more precisely intelligence) has a distribution over the population, and selective ignorance and bigotry in certain ways is correlated with politics. In particular, eligibility for work visas actively selects for non-dumbness: you have to get hired for a job. Eligibility for birthright citizenship does not. So there are solid reasons to believe that immigrants to a country (any country) are statistically less dumb than native citizens. Immigrants also necessarily have more life experiences and more personal knowledge of people of different backgrounds and origins, which makes them less likely to be ignorant and bigoted, too.
- angry-hacker 10y ago
  Statistically you can guess all sort of things, like whites are smarter than other races etc. All I was saying is that the parent comment was racist.
  - mercer 10y ago
    How was it racist? At worst it was discriminatory, but then there is literally no way to hire without some degree of discrimination (even if the measure is a perfectly legitimate 'more qualified for the job'). Let's not abuse the term 'racism'.