Just remember, this is from the slow release-feedback loop of desktop software. The distribution costs and time made it hard to iterate quickly. Web stuff is

Just remember, this is from the slow release-feedback loop of desktop software. The distribution costs and time made it hard to iterate quickly. Web stuff is much quicker, but I'd still hesitate to say less than 3-4 years. (yes, something can get put out in 3 months, but rich, full software takes longer. pg was still working on Viaweb after Yahoo bought them)