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This is not new. It's interesting to note that Trump has placed a portrait of Andrew Jackson in the Oval Office, as there are many parallels between Trump's ri
by LyndsySimon 10y ago
This is not new.
It's interesting to note that Trump has placed a portrait of Andrew Jackson in the Oval Office, as there are many parallels between Trump's rise to power and Jackson's.
> In a popular quotation that is believed to be apocryphal, President Andrew Jackson reportedly responded: "John Marshall has made his decision; now let him enforce it!" This derives from Jackson's comments on the case in a letter to John Coffee, "...the decision of the Supreme Court has fell still born, and they find that they cannot coerce Georgia to yield to its mandate".
source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Worcester_v._Georgia#Effects https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Worcester_v._Georgia#Effects
A President wielding Presidential authority is not a coup, it's acting within the authority given to the office via the Constitution and Congress. If you believe the President has too much power then I would urge you to be doing all you can to limit the power of the office, not just change who is in it.
- maxerickson 10y agoit's acting within the authority given to the office via the Constitution and Congress There's a bunch of stays issued by federal courts that are based on questioning whether the administration is doing that.
- LyndsySimon 10y agoFrom my perspective - good. I don't mind sharing that I voted for Trump. I'm not a cheerleader for him, though, my reasons for doing so are limited in scope and he has yet to act to support my interests. That said, all signs seem to indicate that he will do so. The absolute best thing that could come from a Trump presidency is if Congress and the courts were able to significantly restrain the authority of the Executive Branch in general and the President in particular. It has grown far beyond its Constitutional bounds.
- maxerickson 10y agoSo, uh, what if he is acting outside the scope of the powers given to him by the Constitution and Congress and the courts and Congress don't do enough to stop him? (You know, the premise of the link)
- LyndsySimon 10y agoIf that's the case, we're too far gone to save the Republic. Do you think we'd have a better chance to save it in four years? or forty? We've clearly been trending toward increased executive power since our founding. If it's too late now it'll be too late later.
- macintux 10y ago"I'll vote in a morally bankrupt populist kleptocrat and then argue that if the system can't restrain him it's not my fault."
- LyndsySimon 10y agoNo. There are a lot of "if"s in this discussion. Trump has only thus far fulfilled some of his campaign promises. We're discussing potential outcomes if he were to exceed his authority and refuse to yield to the rule of law. I don't believe that will happen.