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I agree on the intent for the H1-B visa, no issues there. That does not mean that immigrants should be barred or Americans always chosen over the immigrant. The
by scient 10y ago
I agree on the intent for the H1-B visa, no issues there. That does not mean that immigrants should be barred or Americans always chosen over the immigrant. The selection should happen based on their competency - if I'm a better candidate than any US candidate, I should get the job. Picking an immigrants over an American candidate because the immigrant is cheaper is the problem - although even here its not as black and white as you would want to.
Now as far as H4 vida holders, you are completely wrong and misunderstanding the issue. Sure, there are tons of MBA holders who cant find jobs. Does that mean she should not even be allowed to compete for any of the available jobs, even she might be more qualified for it? Or she might not be, who knows, this is why you have a free market, the employer can decide.
And the tech giants have equal salary levels associated with the peoples titles and experience. The whole thing about paying immigrants less is just utter bs. I'm in a senior position in my company, I see all the candidates coming through for engineering and the amount of available great engineering talent is very very low - and this is not a unique issue to the US. There is a reason why the tech giants are throwing stacks of money at these people. Its also the reason why I was brought in on a H1-B visa.
All in all I agree with fixing the issue of salary dumping via H1-B outsourcing, but barring actual talented immigrants, while following the rules of the visa process, seems beyond dumb. You WANT to bring in talented people, it raises the overall talent level of the whole pool as a whole, and having dumb restrictions making their lives more difficult (such as H4 work permit rules) makes little sense.
As opposed to not having the talent brought in lowering the overall level of the whole pool because of arbitrary rules.
I get paid as you, I pay taxes just like you, I contribute to the society and economics just like you. Yet you seem to be determined that me being here is a bad thing. Ridiculous.
- davidf18 10y ago> "I agree on the intent for the H1-B visa, no issues there. That does not mean that immigrants should be barred or Americans always chosen over the immigrant. The selection should happen based on their competency" No, America is for Americans not for the world. You have your own country where typically Americans cannot work. If you speak with most Americans they would agree. If you speak to people from other countries they agree that the jobs should be for people from their country. > "You WANT to bring in talented people" You can develop and train them and by offering appropriate wages, talented people will go into those fields. But in a situation where firms use immigrants to depress wages, who wants to be in that situation? -- they'd rather go into law or medicine where it is much harder to have foreign competition. > "Sure, there are tons of MBA holders who cant find jobs. Does that mean she should not even be allowed to compete for any of the available jobs, even she might be more qualified for it? Or she might not be, who knows, this is why you have a free market, the employer can decide." Free market as long as they are American citizens or in a STEM job for which there absolutely no American that can do it. Some more junior people may just benefit from job training. I can't speak to the exact situations, but most American firms will do fine employing American MBAs over immigrants.