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>How do you break into a career in a niche field like SAP development. OH GOD WHY? Have you used SAP? SAP is the most expensive pile of shit I have ever seen.

by VT_Drew 10y ago

>How do you break into a career in a niche field like SAP development. OH GOD WHY? Have you used SAP? SAP is the most expensive pile of shit I have ever seen. No company in their right mind would deploy such a system at this point in time.

beachstartup 10y ago
people pay good money to maintain expensive piles of shit.
sateesh 10y ago
Yeah why, why anchor your career to a closed platform tied to a company ?
jbob2000 10y ago
The SAP developers at my friend's company bill at $350/hour, minimum 3 hours.
- pmoriarty 10y ago
  One of the main reasons I picked my current career is because it paid relatively well. I came to regret it. I got burnt out and grew to hate it. I wish I'd chosen a career in something I really loved instead, even if it didn't pay that well.
  - VT_Drew 10y ago
    Exactly this. I don't really care if it pays well if I hate the system. If I hate using it, if I don't believe in it, if I feel like it isn't the right product for the customers I am supposed to help.
  - kekimchi 10y ago
    What career are you in?
- WhitneyLand 10y ago
  Doesn't mean much because they are only paying that rate based on the reputation of the company they hire. For example if the average SAP dev at your friend's company left to do independent consulting, the rate wouldn't even be in the same ballpark.
manicdee 10y ago
The rates for SAP consultants are double to triple what I am getting. For me, I would prefer to be paid three times what I am getting now to maintain someone's piece of crap legacy software, given that what I do now is maintain someone's piece of crap legacy software. The difference in salary, put into perspective: on my current rates I need to save for three years to buy a Model 3. On double the salary, I can buy a Model S every other year. Forget orange, disposable income is the new black.
- kamikaz1k 10y ago
  The difference is those consultants have already been in the field accruing experience for several years. If you enter now, you'll unable to command those compensation packages. Or even if you manage to, it will not last long. There are 100s of thousands of consultants from offshored operations that will gladly undercut you.
  - flukus 10y ago
    Considering the level of "skill" I've seen in these consultants (not enough to consider a decent sample size) I wonder how long it would take to get to expert level proficiency?
- WhitneyLand 10y ago
  No, not once you compare apples to apples with similar development skill sets, talent, experience, subject matter expertise. It's not double or triple.

by VT_Drew 10y ago

beachstartup 10y ago

people pay good money to maintain expensive piles of shit.

sateesh 10y ago

Yeah why, why anchor your career to a closed platform tied to a company ?

jbob2000 10y ago

The SAP developers at my friend's company bill at $350/hour, minimum 3 hours.

pmoriarty 10y ago
One of the main reasons I picked my current career is because it paid relatively well. I came to regret it. I got burnt out and grew to hate it. I wish I'd chosen a career in something I really loved instead, even if it didn't pay that well.
- VT_Drew 10y ago
  Exactly this. I don't really care if it pays well if I hate the system. If I hate using it, if I don't believe in it, if I feel like it isn't the right product for the customers I am supposed to help.
- kekimchi 10y ago
  What career are you in?
WhitneyLand 10y ago
Doesn't mean much because they are only paying that rate based on the reputation of the company they hire. For example if the average SAP dev at your friend's company left to do independent consulting, the rate wouldn't even be in the same ballpark.

manicdee 10y ago

The rates for SAP consultants are double to triple what I am getting. For me, I would prefer to be paid three times what I am getting now to maintain someone's piece of crap legacy software, given that what I do now is maintain someone's piece of crap legacy software. The difference in salary, put into perspective: on my current rates I need to save for three years to buy a Model 3. On double the salary, I can buy a Model S every other year. Forget orange, disposable income is the new black.

kamikaz1k 10y ago
The difference is those consultants have already been in the field accruing experience for several years. If you enter now, you'll unable to command those compensation packages. Or even if you manage to, it will not last long. There are 100s of thousands of consultants from offshored operations that will gladly undercut you.
- flukus 10y ago
  Considering the level of "skill" I've seen in these consultants (not enough to consider a decent sample size) I wonder how long it would take to get to expert level proficiency?
WhitneyLand 10y ago
No, not once you compare apples to apples with similar development skill sets, talent, experience, subject matter expertise. It's not double or triple.