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This is an article about 250 Disney of FL jobs that were displaced by H1-B Visa abuse. Trump was clearly against the abuse and spoke out against it. Rubio on

This is an article about 250 Disney of FL jobs that were displaced by H1-B Visa abuse. Trump was clearly against the abuse and spoke out against it. Rubio on the other hand was for tripling the number of Visas to 250,000 and had Disney as one of his major donors. Much of Silicon Valley wants to keep wages depressed and have more American unemployed by hiring more immigrant workers over using Americans. Many people say they dislike Trump, but of all the candidate except for Sanders he was the only ones who wasn't bought by Silicon Valley and Wall Street. I believe Joe Biden also was not bought by SV and Wall Street and was concerned about American workers. "While Donald Trump has called on Disney to hire back all of these workers and has pledged to end H-1B job theft as President, Sen. Marco Rubio has pushed to expand the controversial H-1B program—he has introduced two bills that would dramatically boost the issuances of H-1Bs. As recently as last year, Rubio introduced a bill—endorsed by Disney’s CEO Bob Iger via his immigration lobbying firm—that would triple the issuances of H-1Bs. Disney is one of Sen. Rubio’s top financial backers—having donated more that $2 million according to Open Secrets." http://www.breitbart.com/immigration/2016/02/28/displaced-disney-workers-shame-on-you-marco-rubio-we-stand-with-trump/ http://www.breitbart.com/immigration/2016/02/28/displaced-di...

davidf18 10y ago
Why was this downvoted? It would be helpful if someone stated the reason why. What is clear is that Trump represents American workers over the elites that want to depress wages. What is also clear is that Rubio was "bought" by Disney precisely because they wanted to depress American wages. Are these facts incorrect?
- wavefunction 10y ago
  I don't know if you can claim as facts that Trump represents American workers over the elites or that Rubio was bought by Disney. Those are hypotheses and opinions that can only be strongly or poorly argued to the rest of us. I would declaim your first contention of Trump favoring workers over wealthy elites, merely by the long sordid history of wage theft perpetrated by Trump[0]. The claim about Rubio needs more evidence to be considered a fact. I would agree, given the circumstantial evidence, but it wouldn't yet be a fact unless direct evidence could be presented. [0]https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/digger/wp/2017/01/06/third-lien-on-trump-hotel-brings-alleged-unpaid-bills-to-over-5-million/?utm_term=.e272faae6d9f https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/digger/wp/2017/01/06/thi...
  - davidf18 10y ago
    > "I don't know if you can claim as facts that Trump represents American workers over the elites or that Rubio was bought by Disney." I didn't say that Rubio was bought by Disney, but that 'Rubio was "bought" by Disney', the quotes are operative to suggest a strong implication without in fact true evidence which might be illegal. The point is that Rubio accepted $2 million from Disney to increase from 85,000 to 250,000 the number of H1-B visas that only serves to replace American STEM workers with immigrants who are cheaper and who don't have job mobility. Rubio ignored his own constituents, 250 of whom had their jobs replaced by Disney using immigrants. Increasing the number of H1-B visas by 165,000 fewer American STEM workers get jobs each year or 1.65 million over a decade. What is clear about Trump is that he has spoken out against Disney's use of H1-B visas to replace American STEM jobs. He has spoken out and intervened with Carrier which wanted to send 2000 Indiana factory jobs to Mexico. About 1000 of those jobs will be saved. Sanders agreed with Trump about Carrier, Disney, etc., but Hilary was silent as were all of the other Republican candidates. I can only speak of Rubio's actions (accepting $2 million from Disney which wanted to put more American STEM workers on unemployment and sponsoring a bill to increase H1-B Visas) compared with Trump who spoke out against these actions and who did not receive one cent from Disney or probably most SV and Wall Street firms. Most of the SV and Wall Street firms hate Trump precisely because he won't allow them to import cheap STEM labor so now the firms will have to pay market rates to retain STEM employees. HP chief Meg Whitman, a Republican, said she was voting for Hilary because '“Trump’s reckless and uninformed positions” on immigration...' [1]. Trump's reckless and uninformed position on immigration is stopping illegal immigration and ensuring H1-B visas are issued according to law -- only for those STEM jobs for which no Americans are qualified. HP like Disney and other firms that hire STEM workers want to depress STEM job income using immigrants (e.g., H1-B Visas). Trump will have nothing of it and that makes them very, very angry. [1] http://fortune.com/2016/08/02/hewlett-packard-enterprise-meg-whitman-donald-trump-hillary-clinton/ http://fortune.com/2016/08/02/hewlett-packard-enterprise-meg...
gfody 10y ago
It's plain to see who's abusing the program thanks to the mandatory transparency. http://h1bdata.info http://h1bdata.info look at Google & Microsoft - can you really hire software engineers in New York and San Francisco for 90-130k? The average might be approaching low-market thanks to one or two high paid spots but the median is way, way low. Shady low. On the other hand Facebook in Menlo Park, CA - these salaries look appropriate for the area and the spread is reasonable.

davidf18 10y ago

Why was this downvoted? It would be helpful if someone stated the reason why. What is clear is that Trump represents American workers over the elites that want to depress wages. What is also clear is that Rubio was "bought" by Disney precisely because they wanted to depress American wages. Are these facts incorrect?

wavefunction 10y ago
I don't know if you can claim as facts that Trump represents American workers over the elites or that Rubio was bought by Disney. Those are hypotheses and opinions that can only be strongly or poorly argued to the rest of us. I would declaim your first contention of Trump favoring workers over wealthy elites, merely by the long sordid history of wage theft perpetrated by Trump[0]. The claim about Rubio needs more evidence to be considered a fact. I would agree, given the circumstantial evidence, but it wouldn't yet be a fact unless direct evidence could be presented. [0]https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/digger/wp/2017/01/06/third-lien-on-trump-hotel-brings-alleged-unpaid-bills-to-over-5-million/?utm_term=.e272faae6d9f https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/digger/wp/2017/01/06/thi...
- davidf18 10y ago
  > "I don't know if you can claim as facts that Trump represents American workers over the elites or that Rubio was bought by Disney." I didn't say that Rubio was bought by Disney, but that 'Rubio was "bought" by Disney', the quotes are operative to suggest a strong implication without in fact true evidence which might be illegal. The point is that Rubio accepted $2 million from Disney to increase from 85,000 to 250,000 the number of H1-B visas that only serves to replace American STEM workers with immigrants who are cheaper and who don't have job mobility. Rubio ignored his own constituents, 250 of whom had their jobs replaced by Disney using immigrants. Increasing the number of H1-B visas by 165,000 fewer American STEM workers get jobs each year or 1.65 million over a decade. What is clear about Trump is that he has spoken out against Disney's use of H1-B visas to replace American STEM jobs. He has spoken out and intervened with Carrier which wanted to send 2000 Indiana factory jobs to Mexico. About 1000 of those jobs will be saved. Sanders agreed with Trump about Carrier, Disney, etc., but Hilary was silent as were all of the other Republican candidates. I can only speak of Rubio's actions (accepting $2 million from Disney which wanted to put more American STEM workers on unemployment and sponsoring a bill to increase H1-B Visas) compared with Trump who spoke out against these actions and who did not receive one cent from Disney or probably most SV and Wall Street firms. Most of the SV and Wall Street firms hate Trump precisely because he won't allow them to import cheap STEM labor so now the firms will have to pay market rates to retain STEM employees. HP chief Meg Whitman, a Republican, said she was voting for Hilary because '“Trump’s reckless and uninformed positions” on immigration...' [1]. Trump's reckless and uninformed position on immigration is stopping illegal immigration and ensuring H1-B visas are issued according to law -- only for those STEM jobs for which no Americans are qualified. HP like Disney and other firms that hire STEM workers want to depress STEM job income using immigrants (e.g., H1-B Visas). Trump will have nothing of it and that makes them very, very angry. [1] http://fortune.com/2016/08/02/hewlett-packard-enterprise-meg-whitman-donald-trump-hillary-clinton/ http://fortune.com/2016/08/02/hewlett-packard-enterprise-meg...

gfody 10y ago

It's plain to see who's abusing the program thanks to the mandatory transparency. http://h1bdata.info http://h1bdata.info look at Google & Microsoft - can you really hire software engineers in New York and San Francisco for 90-130k? The average might be approaching low-market thanks to one or two high paid spots but the median is way, way low. Shady low. On the other hand Facebook in Menlo Park, CA - these salaries look appropriate for the area and the spread is reasonable.