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If "cheap labor" from H1-Bs can do your job, you need to get better at your job.

by wnevets 10y ago

DarkKomunalec 10y ago
It's been predicted 50% of jobs are at risk of being done by robots, so surely cheap H1-Bs could do them as well. Are you saying 50% of people need to just 'get better'? Or that you should move your family to Mexico or some other low cost of living country, just so you can survive at a globally competitive wage? Edit: I also find the attitude that Americans are SO GREAT, only the worst of them should fear being outdone by a foreigner, very arrogant and not based in fact.
- wnevets 10y ago
  Yes. We are not entitled to anything, including being protected from competition of robots and those living in a low cost country.
  - ConfuciusSay02 10y ago
    No, but we can vote for politicians who promise to reform or do away with the H1B program altogether. Are you suggesting Americans shouldn't vote for their own interests?
    - wnevets 10y ago
      You can try to delay the inevitable but you can't hide from competition forever, especially if you want to live in a country with capitalism.
      - scarface74 10y ago
        Exactly. I may look back and regret this later, but I don't see a circumstance where both my job will be outsourced and my skill set as a senior dev who can communicate architecture and business clearly and has developed soft skills won't give me a competitive advantage over cheap outsourced labor.
      - ConfuciusSay02 10y ago
        It's not at all inevitable that we have to allow the hiring of mass amounts of immigrants. Why do you think it's inevitable?
jobigoud 10y ago
You should consider the fact that someone can simultaneously be cheaper and better at your job. See robots.
- wnevets 10y ago
  What makes you think I haven't? Unless you think we should ban robots from taking jobs, I'm not sure what your point is.
  - jobigoud 10y ago
    The point was that "just get better at your job" is an impractical advice if your competitors are much better than you for a cheaper price. Consider some entity with the same level of expertise as you but paid half as much. How are you going to suddenly become twice as good to keep your current position? So yeah, when that happens the solution is to become expert in another game entirely.

If "cheap labor" from H1-Bs can do your job, you need to get better at your job.

by wnevets 10y ago

If "cheap labor" from H1-Bs can do your job, you need to get better at your job.

It's been predicted 50% of jobs are at risk of being done by robots, so surely cheap H1-Bs could do them as well. Are you saying 50% of people need to just 'get better'? Or that you should move your family to Mexico or some other low cost of living country, just so you can survive at a globally competitive wage? Edit: I also find the attitude that Americans are SO GREAT, only the worst of them should fear being outdone by a foreigner, very arrogant and not based in fact.

wnevets 10y ago
Yes. We are not entitled to anything, including being protected from competition of robots and those living in a low cost country.
- ConfuciusSay02 10y ago
  No, but we can vote for politicians who promise to reform or do away with the H1B program altogether. Are you suggesting Americans shouldn't vote for their own interests?
  - wnevets 10y ago
    You can try to delay the inevitable but you can't hide from competition forever, especially if you want to live in a country with capitalism.
    - scarface74 10y ago
      Exactly. I may look back and regret this later, but I don't see a circumstance where both my job will be outsourced and my skill set as a senior dev who can communicate architecture and business clearly and has developed soft skills won't give me a competitive advantage over cheap outsourced labor.
    - ConfuciusSay02 10y ago
      It's not at all inevitable that we have to allow the hiring of mass amounts of immigrants. Why do you think it's inevitable?

jobigoud 10y ago

You should consider the fact that someone can simultaneously be cheaper and better at your job. See robots.

wnevets 10y ago
What makes you think I haven't? Unless you think we should ban robots from taking jobs, I'm not sure what your point is.
- jobigoud 10y ago
  The point was that "just get better at your job" is an impractical advice if your competitors are much better than you for a cheaper price. Consider some entity with the same level of expertise as you but paid half as much. How are you going to suddenly become twice as good to keep your current position? So yeah, when that happens the solution is to become expert in another game entirely.