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A really important point from the article: Put simply, I don’t believe that the stated purpose is the real purpose. This is a ban on Muslims under another cov
by grey-area 10y ago
A really important point from the article:
Put simply, I don’t believe that the stated purpose is the real purpose.
This is a ban on Muslims under another cover, it has no practical purpose, and that's what makes it malevolent. Like the fact that it was released on Holocaust memorial day, and the statement on that day omitting to mention jews for no discernable reason, it is intended to demonstrate absolute power, and to inculcate a feeling of helplessness in any that oppose the administration or belong to groups they do not respect.
I now believe it is a prelude to much worse. This is why trump has moved from being a political opponent to a moral enemy for many people these last few days.
- gadders 10y agoWhy is it only 7 Muslim countries then? Why not all of them?
- lallysingh 10y agoTrump has businesses in many others
- tobltobs 10y agoThe other ones do buy weapons from the US.
- grey-area 10y agoTo try to confuse and disarm partisan Democrats and legitimise by comparison - they clearly had that line about it being Obama's list prepared. Plus you've got to start somewhere, they had plans to expand the list. Remember Trump would have preferred to ban all muslims, he was quite explicit about this.
- LoSboccacc 10y agoThose countries come from a terrorist watch list from the previous administration, 'countries of concern' is the collective term, as used in the order. I suggest you read the executive orders, more than the news about it.
- ominous 10y agoWell, this strongly implies it is a muslim ban under another cover: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2017/01/29/trump-asked-for-a-muslim-ban-giuliani-says-and-ordered-a-commission-to-do-it-legally/ https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2017/01/29/tr... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l9GKL6i38pI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l9GKL6i38pI
- andy_ppp 10y agoOh my god, that video they are advocating and conflating Muslims with criminals that should be deported or put into detention centres. What the actual fuck?
- JumpCrisscross 10y ago> it has no practical purpose “One Trump friend and adviser, Tom Barrack, said the president has indicated that the immigration order serves two purposes: one, to keep a potential terrorist out, but two to send a signal to the larger Middle East that the countries there need to take control of the situation at home and stop using a flood of refugees as a bargaining chip to pressure the West.” (Note: not agreeing with the stated purposes, just pointing them out as hypothesised motivations.) https://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2017-01-30/trump-migrant-ban-confuses-allies-business-and-trump-aides https://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2017-01-30/trump...
- michaelgrosner2 10y ago> Rudy W. Giuliani said President Trump wanted a “Muslim ban” and requested he assemble a commission to show him “the right way to do it legally.” https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2017/01/29/trump-asked-for-a-muslim-ban-giuliani-says-and-ordered-a-commission-to-do-it-legally/?utm_term=.8d27d41d592c https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2017/01/29/tr...