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The logic of the appeaser.

Noseshine 10y ago
I would argue the other logic of hammering Trump blindly is the logic that doesn't care about the issues it claims to care about nearly as much as about "feeling good" on a childish level: The main goal seems to be to make Trump angry and not to solve any of those issues. For another example, it's not exactly news that calling Trump supporters (and Trump himself) names does not help, yet that still is what a lot of anti-Trump comments seem to concentrate on. It doesn't help, it doesn't change anything, but it's a main feature of the discussion. Most people on the side of "logic" don't follow logic, they go by emotions. If you cannot remove that president or the people who elected him, and you can't (you don't even have the means to get rid of them, so there's no need to even look at the morals of such a move) you would think that proponents of logical thinking actually use stone-cold logic to find a way, instead they use the biggest hammer they can find and try to use it on the opponents, deriving pleasure not from solutions but from eliciting angry reactions. "I made them angry - my job is done." For example, the downvotes I got immediately for this comment. The anti-Trump camp disappoints me A LOT more than the Trump camp. You guys claim to be better, yet you act exactly the same. Irrational and emotional and out to hurt your perceived "opponents". Maybe the reason some of you dislike Trump so much is because you are looking in a mirror, deep inside yourself you find mostly raw emotions and rage rather than logic and reasoning. As I said, you guys don't care about progress on any issues, only about hurting people you perceive as even slightly different and only superficially so (since I'm not even remotely in the Trump camp).
- astrodust 10y ago
  I don't give a fuck about what Trump thinks. Nobody should give a fuck about Trump thinks. The number one goal, the main goal, the only goal is to side-step all of his bullshit and get him out of office. Immediately. > If you cannot remove that president ... If your entire argument hingest on this, it's flawed. Presidents can be removed. Deal with it. Bill Clinton was impeached for a fucking affair. Nixon was impeached and removed from office over illegal wiretapping. Those things are hilariously trivial compared to what's going on right now. > You guys claim to be better, yet you act exactly the same. Nobody claimed to be better. In this particular case the anti-Trump crowd is on solid legal ground and Trump isn't. Take that as you will. He's breaking not just tons of protocols and precidents, which alone is grounds for discipline, but laws. Laws which require impeachment. Some even require charges.
  - Noseshine 10y ago
    Well, you show you are unable even to read and comprehend a few simple sentences. As I said: > I would argue the other logic of hammering Trump blindly is the logic that doesn't care about the issues it claims to care about nearly as much as about "feeling good" on a childish level Another example for your stupidity: > Presidents can be removed. So, DO IT! Oh, you can't? What I said. It is what YOU can do, not what somebody else and/or the universe can do (but doesn't!!). Amazing that people with such a lack of thinking-skills complain so much about Trump. I have the feeling what really irks you about that guy is that you are looking in a mirror, he's just like yourself!

I would argue the other logic of hammering Trump blindly is the logic that doesn't care about the issues it claims to care about nearly as much as about "feeling good" on a childish level: The main goal seems to be to make Trump angry and not to solve any of those issues. For another example, it's not exactly news that calling Trump supporters (and Trump himself) names does not help, yet that still is what a lot of anti-Trump comments seem to concentrate on. It doesn't help, it doesn't change anything, but it's a main feature of the discussion. Most people on the side of "logic" don't follow logic, they go by emotions. If you cannot remove that president or the people who elected him, and you can't (you don't even have the means to get rid of them, so there's no need to even look at the morals of such a move) you would think that proponents of logical thinking actually use stone-cold logic to find a way, instead they use the biggest hammer they can find and try to use it on the opponents, deriving pleasure not from solutions but from eliciting angry reactions. "I made them angry - my job is done." For example, the downvotes I got immediately for this comment. The anti-Trump camp disappoints me A LOT more than the Trump camp. You guys claim to be better, yet you act exactly the same. Irrational and emotional and out to hurt your perceived "opponents". Maybe the reason some of you dislike Trump so much is because you are looking in a mirror, deep inside yourself you find mostly raw emotions and rage rather than logic and reasoning. As I said, you guys don't care about progress on any issues, only about hurting people you perceive as even slightly different and only superficially so (since I'm not even remotely in the Trump camp).

astrodust 10y ago
I don't give a fuck about what Trump thinks. Nobody should give a fuck about Trump thinks. The number one goal, the main goal, the only goal is to side-step all of his bullshit and get him out of office. Immediately. > If you cannot remove that president ... If your entire argument hingest on this, it's flawed. Presidents can be removed. Deal with it. Bill Clinton was impeached for a fucking affair. Nixon was impeached and removed from office over illegal wiretapping. Those things are hilariously trivial compared to what's going on right now. > You guys claim to be better, yet you act exactly the same. Nobody claimed to be better. In this particular case the anti-Trump crowd is on solid legal ground and Trump isn't. Take that as you will. He's breaking not just tons of protocols and precidents, which alone is grounds for discipline, but laws. Laws which require impeachment. Some even require charges.
- Noseshine 10y ago
  Well, you show you are unable even to read and comprehend a few simple sentences. As I said: > I would argue the other logic of hammering Trump blindly is the logic that doesn't care about the issues it claims to care about nearly as much as about "feeling good" on a childish level Another example for your stupidity: > Presidents can be removed. So, DO IT! Oh, you can't? What I said. It is what YOU can do, not what somebody else and/or the universe can do (but doesn't!!). Amazing that people with such a lack of thinking-skills complain so much about Trump. I have the feeling what really irks you about that guy is that you are looking in a mirror, he's just like yourself!