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I think that Musk is trying to be diplomatic. I think he's fully against this measure because: 1) As I know Tesla does hire foreign engineers 2) He, himself i

I think that Musk is trying to be diplomatic. I think he's fully against this measure because: 1) As I know Tesla does hire foreign engineers 2) He, himself is an immigrant to the US, and he was - if not an actual illegal alien, at least in a gray area immigration wise - at some point while building x.com

BinaryIdiot 10y ago
Yeah I agree I think he's against it but realizes the best we can hope for, at least going through the administration which he has access to, is offering amendments to soften the executive order. I get the feeling Musk is trying to do what he can, the best he can, but since he's not directly saying it needs to go away he's going to catch hell for it. I think he's in a very difficult spot either way he goes.
- TeMPOraL 10y ago
  > but since he's not directly saying it needs to go away he's going to catch hell for it That's, unfortunately, the Copenhagen Interpretation of Ethics[0] at play. "The Copenhagen Interpretation of Ethics says that when you observe or interact with a problem in any way, you can be blamed for it. At the very least, you are to blame for not doing more. Even if you don’t make the problem worse, even if you make it slightly better, the ethical burden of the problem falls on you as soon as you observe it. In particular, if you interact with a problem and benefit from it, you are a complete monster. I don’t subscribe to this school of thought, but it seems pretty popular." [0] - https://blog.jaibot.com/the-copenhagen-interpretation-of-ethics/ https://blog.jaibot.com/the-copenhagen-interpretation-of-eth...
egopulsus 10y ago
1) what does the temporary 90 day ban from 7 countries that export terrorism have to do with Tesla hiring foreign engineers? 2) what does Elon's resume as a legal immigrant have to do with anything? most legal immigrants that I know are covertly/not-covertly pro-Trump

BinaryIdiot 10y ago

Yeah I agree I think he's against it but realizes the best we can hope for, at least going through the administration which he has access to, is offering amendments to soften the executive order. I get the feeling Musk is trying to do what he can, the best he can, but since he's not directly saying it needs to go away he's going to catch hell for it. I think he's in a very difficult spot either way he goes.

TeMPOraL 10y ago
> but since he's not directly saying it needs to go away he's going to catch hell for it That's, unfortunately, the Copenhagen Interpretation of Ethics[0] at play. "The Copenhagen Interpretation of Ethics says that when you observe or interact with a problem in any way, you can be blamed for it. At the very least, you are to blame for not doing more. Even if you don’t make the problem worse, even if you make it slightly better, the ethical burden of the problem falls on you as soon as you observe it. In particular, if you interact with a problem and benefit from it, you are a complete monster. I don’t subscribe to this school of thought, but it seems pretty popular." [0] - https://blog.jaibot.com/the-copenhagen-interpretation-of-ethics/ https://blog.jaibot.com/the-copenhagen-interpretation-of-eth...

egopulsus 10y ago

1) what does the temporary 90 day ban from 7 countries that export terrorism have to do with Tesla hiring foreign engineers? 2) what does Elon's resume as a legal immigrant have to do with anything? most legal immigrants that I know are covertly/not-covertly pro-Trump