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If you haven't seen the technical criticisms of Hyperloop, Thunderf00t has an interesting video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RNFesa01llk https://www.youtub

If you haven't seen the technical criticisms of Hyperloop, Thunderf00t has an interesting video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RNFesa01llk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RNFesa01llk I haven't seen most of the issues he raises addressed.

zenir 10y ago
It's a partial vacuum not a full vacuum. Stopped watching at that point..
- e2e8 10y ago
  I don't think that objection, by itself, invalidates the the video author's criticisms. According to Wikipedia, the hyperloop is intended to have a pressure of 100 Pa or 0.1 % of atmospheric pressure[1]. That is not much different from a prefect vacuum for the purposes of an approximate engineering calculation. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyperloop https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyperloop
  - ustolemyname 10y ago
    That's like saying there's no difference between 99.9℅ the speed of light and going all the way there, from an engineer perspective. Turns out, one of these requires an infinite more expenditure of energy than the other. Similarly, if you're evacuating a tube by removing gave the gas at a time, 1/1000 is attainable. 0? Not so much.
    - e2e8 10y ago
      I don't disagree but that is not issue here. The issue is that for the purposes of discussing the mechanics of the tube like strength, seals, safety etc. the small amount of air left in the tube should not throw off simple calculations by too much.
  - Animats 10y ago
    No, the air in the tube matters, at least in Musk's original design, which has the pod running on a very thin air cushion. In practice, most designs are maglev, for which a hard vacuum is best.
    - e2e8 10y ago
      But that amount of air may not matter too much for the points discussed in the video which have to do with strength, seals, etc.
    - TeMPOraL 10y ago
      That, and AFAIR original design had a system to pull the air from the front to the back, thus lowering the drag while reducing the need for lower air pressure.
- stephen_g 10y ago
  There's no such thing as a 'full vacuum' in the real world. If you think that invalidates the arguments in the video then that likely means that you need to do more research on vacuum systems...
erikpukinskis 10y ago
The whole video has been discredited.
- grzm 10y ago
  Why? By whom? This statement alone isn't very helpful.
  - erikpukinskis 10y ago
    https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=thunderf00t+hyperloop https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=thunderf00t+hyp...
    - grzm 10y ago
      Thanks for the link, but would you add a bit of a summary?
wtfishackernews 10y ago
Here is the /r/hyperloop thread discussing the video https://www.reddit.com/r/hyperloop/comments/4udod1/the_hyperloop_busted_thunderf00t_thoughts/ https://www.reddit.com/r/hyperloop/comments/4udod1/the_hyper...

zenir 10y ago

It's a partial vacuum not a full vacuum. Stopped watching at that point..

e2e8 10y ago
I don't think that objection, by itself, invalidates the the video author's criticisms. According to Wikipedia, the hyperloop is intended to have a pressure of 100 Pa or 0.1 % of atmospheric pressure[1]. That is not much different from a prefect vacuum for the purposes of an approximate engineering calculation. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyperloop https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyperloop
- ustolemyname 10y ago
  That's like saying there's no difference between 99.9℅ the speed of light and going all the way there, from an engineer perspective. Turns out, one of these requires an infinite more expenditure of energy than the other. Similarly, if you're evacuating a tube by removing gave the gas at a time, 1/1000 is attainable. 0? Not so much.
  - e2e8 10y ago
    I don't disagree but that is not issue here. The issue is that for the purposes of discussing the mechanics of the tube like strength, seals, safety etc. the small amount of air left in the tube should not throw off simple calculations by too much.
- Animats 10y ago
  No, the air in the tube matters, at least in Musk's original design, which has the pod running on a very thin air cushion. In practice, most designs are maglev, for which a hard vacuum is best.
  - e2e8 10y ago
    But that amount of air may not matter too much for the points discussed in the video which have to do with strength, seals, etc.
  - TeMPOraL 10y ago
    That, and AFAIR original design had a system to pull the air from the front to the back, thus lowering the drag while reducing the need for lower air pressure.
stephen_g 10y ago
There's no such thing as a 'full vacuum' in the real world. If you think that invalidates the arguments in the video then that likely means that you need to do more research on vacuum systems...

erikpukinskis 10y ago

The whole video has been discredited.

grzm 10y ago
Why? By whom? This statement alone isn't very helpful.
- erikpukinskis 10y ago
  https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=thunderf00t+hyperloop https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=thunderf00t+hyp...
  - grzm 10y ago
    Thanks for the link, but would you add a bit of a summary?

wtfishackernews 10y ago

Here is the /r/hyperloop thread discussing the video https://www.reddit.com/r/hyperloop/comments/4udod1/the_hyperloop_busted_thunderf00t_thoughts/ https://www.reddit.com/r/hyperloop/comments/4udod1/the_hyper...