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Don't limit your perspective. It'd be a better idea to move in with a physics major and a poet than with 2 copies of yourself.

by Maro 16y ago

zakkap 16y ago
I am not looking for "2 copies" of myself... There are a lot of people on this thread who think what I'm doing is a good idea. Please explain why that moving in with a physics major and a poet is a better idea than what I have proposed?
- random42 16y ago
  Because you can talk/discuss something other than computer science / software development to them, hence you would not be limit your learnings in one direction. I, for one, would not like to bring what I do for living to my home. If I need to discuss my CS ideas, I can find likeminded people at other places, (say where I work/study), but living with "like minded" people 24 X 7, is not something I'd like to do. (Unless I am starting a startup or something)
  - zakkap 16y ago
    I still have a life and other friends that I talk to about stuff other than CS and software development to... I also have an intense passion for learning and can never see myself as "limiting" myself in one direction. And, yes... The idea is to start a start-up. Hence why I am posting this on YCombinator. And mentioned Kickstarter.com in my link.
    - Maro 16y ago
      IMO: 1. You should not live with your co-founder(s). It's important that you can take breaks from the startup/each other by going home. 2. You should be friends with your co-founder(s), but not "best friends". A startup is a bussiness relationship which is incompatible with "best friendship". This is my experience based on doing my own startup and watching others.
      - zakkap 16y ago
        Maro, What startups have you helped to be successful?
      - benatkin 16y ago
        I don't have to look far for a counter-example: reddit. From the articles and interviews I've seen, I think rooming together was a very important part of reddit culture early on.
        zakkap 16y ago
        Excellent example!
  - samd 16y ago
    You are severely oversimplifying people. There is nothing that prevents a software developer from writing poetry, or a poet from designing websites. Interesting people have a wide range of hobbies and interests.
    - zakkap 16y ago
      Thank you :)
    - random42 16y ago
      I personally have yet to come across a software developer who writes poetry. I am also a bit skeptical of this happening, as software development is by profession more left brain work, where as poetry is right brain work.
- Maro 16y ago
  You're looking for someone who is a fan of the same progr. lang. as you are, who uses the same text editor, the same VCS, and even the same libraries/frameworks. You're looking for a designer who uses the same version of Photoshop that you're using, or at least uses the version you think he/she should be using.
  - zakkap 16y ago
    People are individuals. Just because two people have 3 or 4 of the same things in common: Text Editor, Programming Language or whatever doesn't make them the same person. Please look at other replies I have made where I explain that I'm lackadaisical on the requirements. Also, thanks for your criticism.
    - omgsean 16y ago
      The fact that you seem to be getting a little upset pretty quickly by the criticism in this thread probably says more about you as a roommate than the tools you use. I'm past my roommate days thankfully, but take it easy dude!
  - lawn 16y ago
    Yes, agree with both posts. You shouldn't care what language or library he's using. There aren't "Ruby programmers", there are just programmers. I honestly try to stay away from people who claim they are language x programmers and those who think one language is superior, because quite frankly they're often not that good. Honestly are Ruby programmers really better than those who code in C or haskell and honestly what does it matter which text editor I choose to use?! What would you learn if he knows and use the same things as you? Wouldn't it be a lot better, and a lot cooler, if your roommate could teach you about compilers, creating games or advanced algorithms or something that you don't know already? It's a great idea to get a roommate with similar interests, but really I think you're focusing on the wrong things.
    - zakkap 16y ago
      What makes you think I don't already know about compilers, algorithms and game creation. I happen to know alot. Including Maya/3D Studio and even Final Cut/Vegas Studios. I am not just a Ruby programmer, I also speak PHP and Objective-C... I'm not saying a person should ONLY know Ruby, jeez! This person can have other interests and knowledge as well...
csallen 16y ago
I have to disagree here. A good example is StarCraft. If you play StarCraft by yourself, you can become a good player. If all of your friends play StarCraft, however, then they can help you become a great player. The sheer popularity of the game in Korea is largely responsible for Korean dominance at the professional level. Right now I'm a programmer living with a mechanical engineer, a finance major, and two biologists. I appreciate the worldly perspective they provide, but the fact is I'm missing out on a lot of news/discussion/debate/learning related to coding. If you want to be the best, you need constant feedback from other people who share your expertise. For most things in life, there are diminishing returns on how far you can get by yourself. It's not a coincidence that the best and brightest in any field tend to cluster in the same area.
- zakkap 16y ago
  Thank you :) I completely agree. StarCraft Two is coming out soon!
  - jhuckestein 16y ago
    You're doomed unless you move in with somebody who hates StarCraft
    - zakkap 16y ago
      Your right - as much as I love StarCraft, I don't play it anymore.
    - deleted 16y ago
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Don't limit your perspective. It'd be a better idea to move in with a physics major and a poet than with 2 copies of yourself.

by Maro 16y ago

Don't limit your perspective. It'd be a better idea to move in with a physics major and a poet than with 2 copies of yourself.

zakkap 16y ago

I am not looking for "2 copies" of myself... There are a lot of people on this thread who think what I'm doing is a good idea. Please explain why that moving in with a physics major and a poet is a better idea than what I have proposed?

random42 16y ago
Because you can talk/discuss something other than computer science / software development to them, hence you would not be limit your learnings in one direction. I, for one, would not like to bring what I do for living to my home. If I need to discuss my CS ideas, I can find likeminded people at other places, (say where I work/study), but living with "like minded" people 24 X 7, is not something I'd like to do. (Unless I am starting a startup or something)
- zakkap 16y ago
  I still have a life and other friends that I talk to about stuff other than CS and software development to... I also have an intense passion for learning and can never see myself as "limiting" myself in one direction. And, yes... The idea is to start a start-up. Hence why I am posting this on YCombinator. And mentioned Kickstarter.com in my link.
  - Maro 16y ago
    IMO: 1. You should not live with your co-founder(s). It's important that you can take breaks from the startup/each other by going home. 2. You should be friends with your co-founder(s), but not "best friends". A startup is a bussiness relationship which is incompatible with "best friendship". This is my experience based on doing my own startup and watching others.
    - zakkap 16y ago
      Maro, What startups have you helped to be successful?
    - benatkin 16y ago
      I don't have to look far for a counter-example: reddit. From the articles and interviews I've seen, I think rooming together was a very important part of reddit culture early on.
      - zakkap 16y ago
        Excellent example!
- samd 16y ago
  You are severely oversimplifying people. There is nothing that prevents a software developer from writing poetry, or a poet from designing websites. Interesting people have a wide range of hobbies and interests.
  - zakkap 16y ago
    Thank you :)
  - random42 16y ago
    I personally have yet to come across a software developer who writes poetry. I am also a bit skeptical of this happening, as software development is by profession more left brain work, where as poetry is right brain work.
Maro 16y ago
You're looking for someone who is a fan of the same progr. lang. as you are, who uses the same text editor, the same VCS, and even the same libraries/frameworks. You're looking for a designer who uses the same version of Photoshop that you're using, or at least uses the version you think he/she should be using.
- zakkap 16y ago
  People are individuals. Just because two people have 3 or 4 of the same things in common: Text Editor, Programming Language or whatever doesn't make them the same person. Please look at other replies I have made where I explain that I'm lackadaisical on the requirements. Also, thanks for your criticism.
  - omgsean 16y ago
    The fact that you seem to be getting a little upset pretty quickly by the criticism in this thread probably says more about you as a roommate than the tools you use. I'm past my roommate days thankfully, but take it easy dude!
- lawn 16y ago
  Yes, agree with both posts. You shouldn't care what language or library he's using. There aren't "Ruby programmers", there are just programmers. I honestly try to stay away from people who claim they are language x programmers and those who think one language is superior, because quite frankly they're often not that good. Honestly are Ruby programmers really better than those who code in C or haskell and honestly what does it matter which text editor I choose to use?! What would you learn if he knows and use the same things as you? Wouldn't it be a lot better, and a lot cooler, if your roommate could teach you about compilers, creating games or advanced algorithms or something that you don't know already? It's a great idea to get a roommate with similar interests, but really I think you're focusing on the wrong things.
  - zakkap 16y ago
    What makes you think I don't already know about compilers, algorithms and game creation. I happen to know alot. Including Maya/3D Studio and even Final Cut/Vegas Studios. I am not just a Ruby programmer, I also speak PHP and Objective-C... I'm not saying a person should ONLY know Ruby, jeez! This person can have other interests and knowledge as well...

csallen 16y ago

I have to disagree here. A good example is StarCraft. If you play StarCraft by yourself, you can become a good player. If all of your friends play StarCraft, however, then they can help you become a great player. The sheer popularity of the game in Korea is largely responsible for Korean dominance at the professional level. Right now I'm a programmer living with a mechanical engineer, a finance major, and two biologists. I appreciate the worldly perspective they provide, but the fact is I'm missing out on a lot of news/discussion/debate/learning related to coding. If you want to be the best, you need constant feedback from other people who share your expertise. For most things in life, there are diminishing returns on how far you can get by yourself. It's not a coincidence that the best and brightest in any field tend to cluster in the same area.

zakkap 16y ago
Thank you :) I completely agree. StarCraft Two is coming out soon!
- jhuckestein 16y ago
  You're doomed unless you move in with somebody who hates StarCraft
  - zakkap 16y ago
    Your right - as much as I love StarCraft, I don't play it anymore.
  - deleted 16y ago
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