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I personally support the executive order in its motif. Radicalization of US-born or US-admitted Muslims by clerics, relatives, social media -- is real, eg [1]

I personally support the executive order in its motif. Radicalization of US-born or US-admitted Muslims by clerics, relatives, social media -- is real, eg [1] (Fort-hood terrorist), San-Bernardino terrorists [2]. Therefore, the argument could not just be about questioning if any visa/green card holder for the initial list of 7 'banned-county -->to--> Muslim terrorist perpetrating killing on US soil'. It is a preventive measure, with a time limit . Very appropriate for this period of time, given the war with ISIS. I am not, however, impressed with the execution or the preparation that went into this particular order. I would like to see a different level of scrutiny and reduced personal inconvenience afforded to US green card holders. Appreciate that majority on this forum, including highly respected scientists, will disagree with me. But please allow the expression of, at-least partially informed dissent. [1] http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/12/09/AR2009120904422.html http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/12... [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rizwan_Farook_and_Tashfeen_Malik#Marriage_and_entry_into_United_States https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rizwan_Farook_and_Tashfeen_Mal...

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aclissold 10y ago
All squares are rectangles, but not all rectangles are squares.
- ryanx435 10y ago
  Not all terrorists are muslims, just a majority of them in our current time. This is due to the destabilization of the region more than their religion, although the more radical versions of the religion certainly play a part. Similar things occured in Ireland back in the day: terrorism created by destabilization and fueled by radical religious zeal. Edit: my auto correct sucks
  - 542458 10y ago
    > Not all terrorists are muslims, just a majority of them in our current time In terms of terrorism in the US, that's not actually true by most counts. The US has seen more far-right terrorists than radical Islamic terrorists. Casualty counts for the Islamic terrorists are typically higher, but there are both more events and more individuals involved in far-right terrorism. It's still worth noting that in terms of actual risk-per-individual both are astonishingly rare, and if your goal is to save lives that might otherwise be lost to violence there are far, far better ways of doing it.

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aclissold 10y ago

All squares are rectangles, but not all rectangles are squares.

ryanx435 10y ago
Not all terrorists are muslims, just a majority of them in our current time. This is due to the destabilization of the region more than their religion, although the more radical versions of the religion certainly play a part. Similar things occured in Ireland back in the day: terrorism created by destabilization and fueled by radical religious zeal. Edit: my auto correct sucks
- 542458 10y ago
  > Not all terrorists are muslims, just a majority of them in our current time In terms of terrorism in the US, that's not actually true by most counts. The US has seen more far-right terrorists than radical Islamic terrorists. Casualty counts for the Islamic terrorists are typically higher, but there are both more events and more individuals involved in far-right terrorism. It's still worth noting that in terms of actual risk-per-individual both are astonishingly rare, and if your goal is to save lives that might otherwise be lost to violence there are far, far better ways of doing it.