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I'd like to know why anyone thinks America owes anyone anything? The ban is absolutely necessary. You Americans have a great country but you're going to ruin i
by _andromeda_ 10y ago
I'd like to know why anyone thinks America owes anyone anything?
The ban is absolutely necessary. You Americans have a great country but you're going to ruin it if you don't take your time to listen to Trump.
There is no way that unchecked immigration is a good thing for any country in the world let alone America.
I've heard what has been said about how immigration made America what it is today - great. However, immigration should be based on whether the immigrant will add value to your country. If an immigrant is coming to set up a business, do further studies and other positive things like that, then by all means provide them with a way to come in.
However, if there's a threat of terrorism from the immigrant or if they aren't adding value but will instead be recipients of welfare all I can ask is, WHAT THE HELL IS GOING ON?
How can you sustain this? You cannot save everyone in the world. You just can't. The best you can do is help them from a camp in their own country and even then, it's your choice as a country that has fair elections.
Why did you even have these elections if you're going to disallow the president that you yourselves chose in FAIR elections to do his jobs. Is there anything new that Trump is doing that he did not promise his voters he would do? If not, then you're saying that the majority of the people that chose Trump don't deserve to be heard and that only your views matter.
And don't even get me started on that business of, 'we didn't vote for him...he didn't get the popular vote'.
Why is it okay for previous presidents who won in the electoral college to be legitimized but not Trump? This is absolutely UNFAIR and selfish of anti-Trumpians. Remember, you take away California and Trump actually wins the popular vote anyway. To me, this is a clear indication that one state wants to bully the rest of the country into doing things their way and their way only. So UNFAIR.
Without getting into my country of origin, I will tell you this; we too are building a wall to stop illegal aliens from a neighboring Muslim country from getting in. These fundamentalists are really terrible human beings. We have lost so many lives to their suicide attacks. Friends and families losing their loved ones to these actions. I remember a time we were so scared of the attacks that we had to close offices in the daytime when working and verify you knew who was knocking on the door before letting them in. It was a terrible time and with a recent attack, last week to more precise, the fear is coming back. I just wish we had finished putting up our wall by now and that it was as strong as the proposed American one.
People have to be responsible for their own country. They have to build their own countries and stop the fundamentalism.
- DanBC 10y agoHere's a woman who was travelling from Costa Rica to Scotland. The flight stops in the US. She had a correct transit visa. She was stoppend because of Trump's ban. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-38788116 http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-38788116 How many Americans have been killed by Scottish-Iranian vets?
- _andromeda_ 10y agoHow do you suppose you can deal with radicalized immigrants if you're indiscriminate about immigration? It is a temporary ban first of all. Secondly, it is not just about security. It is also about welfare. I'm not a proponent of welfare but if you must have it, then you cannot possibly combine that with unrestricted immigration because the logical outcome of that is a population full of immigrants on welfare voting themselves more welfare. Is that how America was built? No. It was built by hard working intelligent people to a country that is the envy of many today.
- danso 10y agoWhat makes you think immigrants just come to vote "themselves more welfare"? Many groups of immigrants and refugees start off poor. I don't know where you learned about America, but we have enough resources that things aren't a zero sum game between immigrants and current citizens.
- _andromeda_ 10y agoFirst of all, anyone can learn about anything now. Everything is everywhere now so you cannot lie to anyone about what America is like or what it isn't like. I suggest you forfeit that line of argument. Secondly, riddle me this; do more immigrants vote for the party that promises more government welfare or less government welfare? I don't even know where you're going with this. Finally, no one believes that resources aren't finite and as such it isn't a zero-sum game more than I do. However, when you have speak of how the wealthy/corporations should pay more taxes and those taxes should go to fund more welfare...clearly that's a mindset that says things are scarce and that it is a zero-sum game. One party says expropriate from producers to fund welfare the other says reduce regulation and taxes to incentivise more production. One has a producer mindset, the other has a consumer mindset.