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> "same stunt in 2011" i tried to find out where the source of this information came from. all i could find were far-right blogs reposting the same story from
by swang 10y ago
> "same stunt in 2011"
i tried to find out where the source of this information came from. all i could find were far-right blogs reposting the same story from thefederalist, whose source was this ABCNEWS article[0]
Other than that article; in which it says federal sources have told them the State Department had stopped processing Iraqi refugees, I cannot find any other news site that doesn't link back to this very article.
At best there is another site that had some coverage of what happened back in 2011[1]. which only says there's been a large slowdown of approvals for Iraqi refugees due to the incident that occurred in 2009.
In all I can only find 4 EOs from Obama that "banned" immigrants and it was not a blanket ban on all Muslims in select countries. The 4 EOs he made were never targeting certain nationalities or people of certain religious faiths. The last one he made was in 2014 where he banned the entry of anyone who claimed to be a government authority in the Crimea region without authorization from the government of Ukraine.[2]
So I would like to find an actual government website that has a statement saying that they did bar all Iraqi refugees in 2011. I cannot find an EO matching that description. Maybe the State Department did it internally? I do not know.
[0]http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/al-qaeda-kentucky-us-dozens-terrorists-country-refugees/story?id=20931131 http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/al-qaeda-kentucky-us-dozens-te...
[1]http://web.archive.org/web/20151122040105/http://archive.navytimes.com/article/20120206/NEWS/202060315/Terror-threat-slows-Iraqi-refugee-flow-U-S- http://web.archive.org/web/20151122040105/http://archive.nav...
[2]https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Executive_Order_13660 https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Executive_Order_13660
- shawn-butler 10y agoI think you are looking for: https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/8/1187 https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/8/1187 You can search for the phrase "(12) Not present in Iraq, Syria, or any other country or area of concern" The extent to which State/HomeSec enforced this provision, I have no context. But it wasn't _in_ 2011, it was codified in 2015 but targeted people retroactively _to_ 2011.
- swang 10y agothis does not seem to be the same thing. specificially the articles cited says obama says banned only iraqi refugees for 6 months, not syrian, nor just immigrants. specifically it would have to be an order coming from USRAP or the State Dept or some kind of EO from Obama. also the article you provided seems to be about visa waivers and not actual immigration law/orders. i'm not an expert so i'm trying to sort out what exactly they are saying obama did.
- shawn-butler 10y agoI don't really deal in the gossip or alt-news, but with the law and actual orders. The link I gave you is not an article. It is the legal code of the United States. That is what is on the books. Ratified by Congress, signed by Obama, and the list of nation-states that were areas of concern were created by agencies of the Obama administration. When you see headlines "Trump bans muslims from seven countries" and then look in the Trump EO and don't find the words Iran, Libya, Yemen, Somalia, etc it is drawing its authority from this which has been the policy of the US government for years.