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> If you want a reasonable commute (less than 1hr) (ie. South Bay, Peninsula, SF, etc) close to great companies, live in a safe area, with good schools, then ea

> If you want a reasonable commute (less than 1hr) (ie. South Bay, Peninsula, SF, etc) close to great companies, live in a safe area, with good schools, then earning anything less than $300k combined makes it tough. You can't even afford the mortgage payment on an average house in those areas at $150k/yr, unless you have a massive down payment, and God help you if one of you or your spouse loses their job. Reasonable commute is relative. For example if you live as far east as the end of Pleasanton / Dublin in East Bay you can have a roughly 45 minute commute to the financial and nearby districts in SF. Point being you can hit your most or all of your marks and not need $300k a year. In fact that's a difficult amount for the average or even above average person to make and it's not always possible to have spouses working. Let people judge what they can and cannot afford to do. General statements like saying making under $300k is going to be tough isn't constructive and while it may be true in some instances it's certainly not true for all.

pfarnsworth 10y ago
Of course it's constructive. People making $75k/yr with a family and a home in North Carolina and then getting an offer for $150k/yr in the Bay Area might think "I'm going to be rich!" when in fact they're probably going to be worse off. People need to understand this, it's a very, very expensive area to live in. I ask EVERYONE and they agree that $300k/yr is about the threshold where life stops getting "tough". You may disagree, but as I said, we will agree to disagree.
- BinaryIdiot 10y ago
  > People making $75k/yr with a family and a home in North Carolina and then getting an offer for $150k/yr in the Bay Area might think "I'm going to be rich!" when in fact they're probably going to be worse off. People need to understand this, it's a very, very expensive area to live in. Before people pick up and move their entire lives they typically research the area. Suggesting otherwise is just a way of calling them stupid. If someone tells me they're doing X and want feedback on Y, I'm not going to automatically assume they're being stupid about X. Sounds rude to me. > I ask EVERYONE and they agree that $300k/yr is about the threshold where life stops getting "tough". Sounds like you're in your own bubble. Its always good to seek out alternative views on something instead of just doubling down in your narrow set of anecdotes. If you're only asking your rich friends you're not going to have a good idea on the reality.
  - pfarnsworth 10y ago
    Nah, it's fine.
closeparen 10y ago
>For example if you live as far east as the end of Pleasanton / Dublin in East Bay you can have a roughly 45 minute commute to the financial and nearby districts in SF. Only if you live right on top of the station. Since these places have relatively poor local transportation and parking demand at stations far outstrips supply, getting between your apartment and the station will add significant time. Reminder that a normal commute is ~25 minutes. We've just gotten acclimated to extremes here.
- BinaryIdiot 10y ago
  > Only if you live right on top of the station. Since these places have relatively poor local transportation and parking demand at stations far outstrips supply, getting between your apartment and the station will add significant time. Yeah if you're within biking distance it's pretty awesome and quick. I take a 10-15 minute drive to the station most days. I really wish they did more about the parking though; even people out in Tracy hit that BART station so parking is full, minus permit spots, by 7:30am or sooner.

pfarnsworth 10y ago

Of course it's constructive. People making $75k/yr with a family and a home in North Carolina and then getting an offer for $150k/yr in the Bay Area might think "I'm going to be rich!" when in fact they're probably going to be worse off. People need to understand this, it's a very, very expensive area to live in. I ask EVERYONE and they agree that $300k/yr is about the threshold where life stops getting "tough". You may disagree, but as I said, we will agree to disagree.

BinaryIdiot 10y ago
> People making $75k/yr with a family and a home in North Carolina and then getting an offer for $150k/yr in the Bay Area might think "I'm going to be rich!" when in fact they're probably going to be worse off. People need to understand this, it's a very, very expensive area to live in. Before people pick up and move their entire lives they typically research the area. Suggesting otherwise is just a way of calling them stupid. If someone tells me they're doing X and want feedback on Y, I'm not going to automatically assume they're being stupid about X. Sounds rude to me. > I ask EVERYONE and they agree that $300k/yr is about the threshold where life stops getting "tough". Sounds like you're in your own bubble. Its always good to seek out alternative views on something instead of just doubling down in your narrow set of anecdotes. If you're only asking your rich friends you're not going to have a good idea on the reality.
- pfarnsworth 10y ago
  Nah, it's fine.

closeparen 10y ago

>For example if you live as far east as the end of Pleasanton / Dublin in East Bay you can have a roughly 45 minute commute to the financial and nearby districts in SF. Only if you live right on top of the station. Since these places have relatively poor local transportation and parking demand at stations far outstrips supply, getting between your apartment and the station will add significant time. Reminder that a normal commute is ~25 minutes. We've just gotten acclimated to extremes here.

BinaryIdiot 10y ago
> Only if you live right on top of the station. Since these places have relatively poor local transportation and parking demand at stations far outstrips supply, getting between your apartment and the station will add significant time. Yeah if you're within biking distance it's pretty awesome and quick. I take a 10-15 minute drive to the station most days. I really wish they did more about the parking though; even people out in Tracy hit that BART station so parking is full, minus permit spots, by 7:30am or sooner.