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The constitution only applies to citizens. Edit: apparently I was mistaken. It applies to 'the people' of the US, which is anyone with 'substantial connection'
by robotresearcher 10y ago
The constitution only applies to citizens.
Edit: apparently I was mistaken. It applies to 'the people' of the US, which is anyone with 'substantial connection' to the US and under US jurisdiction. Green card holders would seem to be pretty clearly of 'the people' then.
Of course, it's a damn shame to treat any legal immigrant or legitimate asylum seeker this way. Seems to be absolutely against the long standing traditions of the country.
- Epenthesis 10y agoThat's a... heterodox interpretation of things. The vast majority of the constitution makes no distinction between citizens and non-citizens subject to American jurisdiction (the exceptions, of course, being for voting and holding office).
- sb057 10y agoShouldn't non-citizen foreign nationals be granted the right to keep and bare arms, then?
- philangist 10y agoI'm pretty sure we are - https://blogs.valpo.edu/law/does-the-second-amendment-apply-to-non-citizens/ https://blogs.valpo.edu/law/does-the-second-amendment-apply-...
- dvt 10y agoThey are. My father owned several guns (we used to go hunting) before we were naturalized (in 2007). I think he owned a .30-06 rifle even before we had our green cards.
- knz 10y agoI believe the 4473 form for transferring a firearm asks residency status and requires an alien number if you are not a citizen. I'm 99% sure PR status is required...
- dvt 10y agoHe bought them from gun shows. In Georgia, all you need is a bill of sale with the gun's serial number signed by both parties.
- knz 10y agoPermanent residents can own firearms in the US. We are also required to register for the draft and expected to serve if drafted.
- alphonsegaston 10y agoMaybe try reading Article III, Section II: https://www.law.cornell.edu/constitution/articleiii https://www.law.cornell.edu/constitution/articleiii
- dang 10y agoWe detached this subthread from https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13512265 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13512265 and marked it off-topic.