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Not everything Trump does is bad. The media will either spin this as ineffective, or simply won't report it, since this is a positive thing that Trump did and

Not everything Trump does is bad. The media will either spin this as ineffective, or simply won't report it, since this is a positive thing that Trump did and those kinds of stories simply won't be tolerated in today's mainstream media environment. But it is nice to see him carrying out the promises that he made to his base, even if we don't all agree with them. That is rare among politicians.

abootstrapper 10y ago
It's not that the media is not reporting good stuff Trump is doing, it's that he's not doing much good stuff.
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chillwaves 10y ago
Stealth edit. You claimed the title did not mention Trump as evidence of media bias. The title explicitly does. > The media will either spin this as ineffective, or simply won't report it The media will not report it? Then how are we seeing this story?
- downandout 10y ago
  Nope, not a stealth edit. I deleted that part of it within seconds. The HN title is U.S. sets 5-year and lifetime lobbying ban for officials. The moment I realized that this was not the title of the article itself, and before you posted your comment, I deleted that part of it. The media will not report it? Then how are we seeing this story? Most people do not get their news straight from the AP. It will be fascinating to see this story get spun and spun again by the likes of CNN, MSNBC, etc.
  - threeseed 10y ago
    It has already been reported on news sites. Just to name a few. Not much "spin" that I can tell: http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/trump-sets-5-year-lifetime-lobbying-ban-officials-n713631 http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/trump-sets-5-year-lifeti... http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory/trump-sets-year-lifetime-lobbying-ban-officials-45115600 http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory/trump-sets-year-lif... http://time.com/4652703/president-trump-lobbying-ban/ http://time.com/4652703/president-trump-lobbying-ban/
    - downandout 10y ago
      Here's CNN's attempt at spin [1]: "However, Trump's move to ban his aides from cashing in on their current jobs may be easier said than done. Lobbying can be ambiguously titled in practice, and while former staffers may not become registered lobbyists, they could potentially trade influence and government experience for a hefty paycheck all the same." They also buried the story among many negative ones on their home page. [1] http://www.cnn.com/2017/01/28/politics/donald-trump-executive-actions/index.html http://www.cnn.com/2017/01/28/politics/donald-trump-executiv...
threeseed 10y ago
> That is rare among politicians. It's not rare at all. Many politicians who are from gerrymandered seats cater exclusively to their base. Because that is the only constituency that matters to their re-election. Trump is supposed to be the President of ALL Americans. Not just the 25% odd percent who voted for him. And the fact that his popularity and approval rating is dropping daily attests to this.
- downandout 10y ago
  I suppose I should have said that's rare among Presidents. Obama, for example, flat-out lied to his base about his stance on privacy rights, forever harming the ability of US tech companies to compete with those in privacy-minded countries. When it came to light that he had authorized even more invasive government surveillance programs than any of his predecessors, including George W. Bush, he didn't even bother apologizing.
  - threeseed 10y ago
    Of course it is rare among Presidents. It's stupid and counter productive. Presidents should be governing based on the national interest and educated, considered advice of the public servants. Not the ever changing, populist, ignorant whims of a minority of the country. I mean that from the left or right of the electorate. And no have not seen any indication the US tech companies are struggling to compete with anyone due specifically to privacy concerns. Apple is still arguably the leader in privacy, even yesterday they widely deployed differential privacy across iCloud analytics.
    - downandout 10y ago
      You're honestly going to argue that the whole NSA debacle didn't hurt American technology companies? https://www.nytimes.com/2014/03/22/business/fallout-from-snowden-hurting-bottom-line-of-tech-companies.html?_r=0 https://www.nytimes.com/2014/03/22/business/fallout-from-sno... https://phys.org/news/2015-06-snowden-revelations-costly-tech-firms.html https://phys.org/news/2015-06-snowden-revelations-costly-tec...
GavinMcG 10y ago
You realize this is the media, reporting it?
- downandout 10y ago
  Most people do not get their news from the AP. They will see the spun version on CNN, MSNBC, etc. Or perhaps in this case, they won't see it at all.
  - GavinMcG 10y ago
    Here's the CNN version. What's the spin? http://www.cnn.com/2017/01/28/politics/donald-trump-executive-actions/index.html http://www.cnn.com/2017/01/28/politics/donald-trump-executiv...

abootstrapper 10y ago

It's not that the media is not reporting good stuff Trump is doing, it's that he's not doing much good stuff.

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chillwaves 10y ago

Stealth edit. You claimed the title did not mention Trump as evidence of media bias. The title explicitly does. > The media will either spin this as ineffective, or simply won't report it The media will not report it? Then how are we seeing this story?

downandout 10y ago
Nope, not a stealth edit. I deleted that part of it within seconds. The HN title is U.S. sets 5-year and lifetime lobbying ban for officials. The moment I realized that this was not the title of the article itself, and before you posted your comment, I deleted that part of it. The media will not report it? Then how are we seeing this story? Most people do not get their news straight from the AP. It will be fascinating to see this story get spun and spun again by the likes of CNN, MSNBC, etc.
- threeseed 10y ago
  It has already been reported on news sites. Just to name a few. Not much "spin" that I can tell: http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/trump-sets-5-year-lifetime-lobbying-ban-officials-n713631 http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/trump-sets-5-year-lifeti... http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory/trump-sets-year-lifetime-lobbying-ban-officials-45115600 http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory/trump-sets-year-lif... http://time.com/4652703/president-trump-lobbying-ban/ http://time.com/4652703/president-trump-lobbying-ban/
  - downandout 10y ago
    Here's CNN's attempt at spin [1]: "However, Trump's move to ban his aides from cashing in on their current jobs may be easier said than done. Lobbying can be ambiguously titled in practice, and while former staffers may not become registered lobbyists, they could potentially trade influence and government experience for a hefty paycheck all the same." They also buried the story among many negative ones on their home page. [1] http://www.cnn.com/2017/01/28/politics/donald-trump-executive-actions/index.html http://www.cnn.com/2017/01/28/politics/donald-trump-executiv...

threeseed 10y ago

> That is rare among politicians. It's not rare at all. Many politicians who are from gerrymandered seats cater exclusively to their base. Because that is the only constituency that matters to their re-election. Trump is supposed to be the President of ALL Americans. Not just the 25% odd percent who voted for him. And the fact that his popularity and approval rating is dropping daily attests to this.

downandout 10y ago
I suppose I should have said that's rare among Presidents. Obama, for example, flat-out lied to his base about his stance on privacy rights, forever harming the ability of US tech companies to compete with those in privacy-minded countries. When it came to light that he had authorized even more invasive government surveillance programs than any of his predecessors, including George W. Bush, he didn't even bother apologizing.
- threeseed 10y ago
  Of course it is rare among Presidents. It's stupid and counter productive. Presidents should be governing based on the national interest and educated, considered advice of the public servants. Not the ever changing, populist, ignorant whims of a minority of the country. I mean that from the left or right of the electorate. And no have not seen any indication the US tech companies are struggling to compete with anyone due specifically to privacy concerns. Apple is still arguably the leader in privacy, even yesterday they widely deployed differential privacy across iCloud analytics.
  - downandout 10y ago
    You're honestly going to argue that the whole NSA debacle didn't hurt American technology companies? https://www.nytimes.com/2014/03/22/business/fallout-from-snowden-hurting-bottom-line-of-tech-companies.html?_r=0 https://www.nytimes.com/2014/03/22/business/fallout-from-sno... https://phys.org/news/2015-06-snowden-revelations-costly-tech-firms.html https://phys.org/news/2015-06-snowden-revelations-costly-tec...

GavinMcG 10y ago

You realize this is the media, reporting it?

downandout 10y ago
Most people do not get their news from the AP. They will see the spun version on CNN, MSNBC, etc. Or perhaps in this case, they won't see it at all.
- GavinMcG 10y ago
  Here's the CNN version. What's the spin? http://www.cnn.com/2017/01/28/politics/donald-trump-executive-actions/index.html http://www.cnn.com/2017/01/28/politics/donald-trump-executiv...