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So Tump ignores the court and we have a constitutional crisis.

noobermin 10y ago
Let's wait for that to happen. Seriously, if this occurs (and we are all damn well aware Trump is capable of it), this will approach a whole new level of madness.
- dheera 10y ago
  Some part of me wants Trump to make this mistake, and make more big mistakes of the non-lethal variety quickly so that there is grounds to impeach him before he starts a war.
  - umanwizard 10y ago
    You are more optimistic than I am about the prospect of a GOP-controlled congress impeaching a GOP president. I think they would only do so if he did something that was obvious to everyone to be a serious existential threat to the US's existence as a country. I mean, it'd have to be something even more beyond the pale than ignoring the Constitution and transforming the US government into an authoritarian regime without the rule of law. Like, nuking China for no reason, or something.
    - seanp2k2 10y ago
      He's been in office for one week. At this rate, he won't last more than a few months. I'm fully confident that he'll piss off the wrong group of people at some point in the next 0-6 months and land himself in court. If Bill came close from lying about cheating on his wife...then again, sort the votes chart at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Impeachment_of_Bill_Clinton https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Impeachment_of_Bill_Clinton by party affiliation. Then again, I'm sure many more Red Team would want Pence instead, so I'm sure we'll see.
    - filoeleven 10y ago
      According to Robert Reich[0], the republicans' whole plan is to use trump to ram through their unpopular agenda and then impeach him when he's no longer useful: Him: They’ll get as much as they want – tax cuts galore, deregulation, military buildup, slash all those poverty programs, and then get to work on Social Security and Medicare – and blame him. And he’s such a fool he’ll want to take credit for everything. Me: And then what? Him (laughing): They like Pence. Me: What do you mean? Him: Pence is their guy. They all think Trump is out of his mind. Him: So the moment Trump does something really dumb – steps over the line – violates the law in a big stupid clumsy way … and you know he will ... Me: They impeach him? Him: You bet. They pull the trigger. [0]https://www.facebook.com/RBReich/posts/1445206565491935 https://www.facebook.com/RBReich/posts/1445206565491935
  - ftrflyr 10y ago
    You want are president to fail? That says a lot about how you view our country and what your regard for American law is. You should never want a current president nor any person to fail. This is why we have elections. You don't like them, vote them out. You comment is actually one of the main reasons for why Trump was elected.
- TillE 10y ago
  The odds of that seem fairly high. Maybe not on this particular decision (I think he'd have a hard time convincing all immigration officials to break the law), but we're heading in that direction very rapidly.
- TheCoelacanth 10y ago
  Wasn't a very long wait: http://nypost.com/2017/01/29/customs-agents-ignore-judge-enforce-trumps-travel-ban-aclu/ http://nypost.com/2017/01/29/customs-agents-ignore-judge-enf...
curt15 10y ago
That's what impeachment is for. Pence, not Trump, is the GOP establishment's preferred president.

Let's wait for that to happen. Seriously, if this occurs (and we are all damn well aware Trump is capable of it), this will approach a whole new level of madness.

dheera 10y ago
Some part of me wants Trump to make this mistake, and make more big mistakes of the non-lethal variety quickly so that there is grounds to impeach him before he starts a war.
- umanwizard 10y ago
  You are more optimistic than I am about the prospect of a GOP-controlled congress impeaching a GOP president. I think they would only do so if he did something that was obvious to everyone to be a serious existential threat to the US's existence as a country. I mean, it'd have to be something even more beyond the pale than ignoring the Constitution and transforming the US government into an authoritarian regime without the rule of law. Like, nuking China for no reason, or something.
  - seanp2k2 10y ago
    He's been in office for one week. At this rate, he won't last more than a few months. I'm fully confident that he'll piss off the wrong group of people at some point in the next 0-6 months and land himself in court. If Bill came close from lying about cheating on his wife...then again, sort the votes chart at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Impeachment_of_Bill_Clinton https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Impeachment_of_Bill_Clinton by party affiliation. Then again, I'm sure many more Red Team would want Pence instead, so I'm sure we'll see.
  - filoeleven 10y ago
    According to Robert Reich[0], the republicans' whole plan is to use trump to ram through their unpopular agenda and then impeach him when he's no longer useful: Him: They’ll get as much as they want – tax cuts galore, deregulation, military buildup, slash all those poverty programs, and then get to work on Social Security and Medicare – and blame him. And he’s such a fool he’ll want to take credit for everything. Me: And then what? Him (laughing): They like Pence. Me: What do you mean? Him: Pence is their guy. They all think Trump is out of his mind. Him: So the moment Trump does something really dumb – steps over the line – violates the law in a big stupid clumsy way … and you know he will ... Me: They impeach him? Him: You bet. They pull the trigger. [0]https://www.facebook.com/RBReich/posts/1445206565491935 https://www.facebook.com/RBReich/posts/1445206565491935
- ftrflyr 10y ago
  You want are president to fail? That says a lot about how you view our country and what your regard for American law is. You should never want a current president nor any person to fail. This is why we have elections. You don't like them, vote them out. You comment is actually one of the main reasons for why Trump was elected.
TillE 10y ago
The odds of that seem fairly high. Maybe not on this particular decision (I think he'd have a hard time convincing all immigration officials to break the law), but we're heading in that direction very rapidly.
TheCoelacanth 10y ago
Wasn't a very long wait: http://nypost.com/2017/01/29/customs-agents-ignore-judge-enforce-trumps-travel-ban-aclu/ http://nypost.com/2017/01/29/customs-agents-ignore-judge-enf...

curt15 10y ago

That's what impeachment is for. Pence, not Trump, is the GOP establishment's preferred president.