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If you're one the best and brightest abroad, why would you trust staking a future in this country anymore? Even if what we're seeing now recedes and fades. Huge

If you're one the best and brightest abroad, why would you trust staking a future in this country anymore? Even if what we're seeing now recedes and fades. Huge damage to our future of this country, beyond just the "temporary"-so-far order.

eli_gottlieb 10y ago
I agree, and that's what I have to say to my former (I graduated) coworker. I'm very much inclined to pack bags, ship my possessions, and leave this country myself. If this is how this government behaves one week in, violating human rights and the Constitution already, what can I expect as a minority who was born here? And what about the people I know without second passports? Should a certain friend refuse to visit China with her parents because Trump might decide to ban her (with an American passport!) from returning home over some spat about trade policy? The Department of Homeland Security should have refused this order.
- WildUtah 10y ago
  A patriotic American can simply renounce a foreign passport.
  - sveme 10y ago
    Some countries do not allow renunciation of their passports.
- nerfhammer 10y ago
  > Trump might decide to ban her (with an American passport!) Trump can't do that. That would take something way beyond an executive order.
- ocschwar 10y ago
  Given that Steve Bannon actively wants us in a shooting war with China, I'd say your friend should make up Plans B,C,D and E immediately.
anarazel 10y ago
I'm not sure it's that easy. For one, it might not be a lot better where you're from. But more importantly, your presence also can influence (small impact on an individual's level of course) where things are going. There's also the issue that depending on your field there's simply more interesting jobs available locally in the US than in a lot of other countries. I moved to the US ~a year ago, now as a permanent resident. Debating on what to do if things continue going down along the current course.

eli_gottlieb 10y ago

I agree, and that's what I have to say to my former (I graduated) coworker. I'm very much inclined to pack bags, ship my possessions, and leave this country myself. If this is how this government behaves one week in, violating human rights and the Constitution already, what can I expect as a minority who was born here? And what about the people I know without second passports? Should a certain friend refuse to visit China with her parents because Trump might decide to ban her (with an American passport!) from returning home over some spat about trade policy? The Department of Homeland Security should have refused this order.

WildUtah 10y ago
A patriotic American can simply renounce a foreign passport.
- sveme 10y ago
  Some countries do not allow renunciation of their passports.
nerfhammer 10y ago
> Trump might decide to ban her (with an American passport!) Trump can't do that. That would take something way beyond an executive order.
ocschwar 10y ago
Given that Steve Bannon actively wants us in a shooting war with China, I'd say your friend should make up Plans B,C,D and E immediately.

anarazel 10y ago

I'm not sure it's that easy. For one, it might not be a lot better where you're from. But more importantly, your presence also can influence (small impact on an individual's level of course) where things are going. There's also the issue that depending on your field there's simply more interesting jobs available locally in the US than in a lot of other countries. I moved to the US ~a year ago, now as a permanent resident. Debating on what to do if things continue going down along the current course.