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It's not even citizenship from one of these 7 countries.... it's having been born there even if you're no longer a citizen[1]. [1] https://twitter.com/nadhimza

by plg 10y ago

It's not even citizenship from one of these 7 countries.... it's having been born there even if you're no longer a citizen[1]. [1] https://twitter.com/nadhimzahawi/status/825445925275500545 https://twitter.com/nadhimzahawi/status/825445925275500545

nrjdhsbsid 10y ago
I assume this is because some countries make it really easy to get citizenship. It would be quite a loophole to just hop over to country X for a few months then onto the US
- plg 10y ago
  UK ??!
  - robjan 10y ago
    It's not particularly trivial to become a citizen of the UK. It involves living in the country for years and passing a test. This is in line with most other countries.
- Broken_Hippo 10y ago
  Then it would make sense to list those countries' dual citizens or naturalized citizens as ones that would take more scrutiny. But Any country other than the US? Heck, I know what I'm going through with immigration here in Norway, and I have one of the easier immigration avenues - marriage. Work and school are quite a bit more difficult. It usually requires one to live here for at least 7 years first: Marriage can cut that in half. That comes with things like the possiblity of having our house inspected so that the authorities are convinced we are living like a married couple and possible interviews with my spouse. Some countries have a more thorough check. It just isn't the bureaucratic lottery nightmare that it is in the states. That doesn't mean that it is easy, merely better run and reasonable.
KirinDave 10y ago
This is the crux of the illegality of the procilmation. It's been illegal to use birthplace as grounds to deny immigration since the 60's, largely because of the incredible prejudice we saw towards Asians and Asian Americans.
plg 10y ago
Edit: Apparently Canadians with dual citizenship with one of the 7 countries, are OK to enter the US: https://twitter.com/justintrudeau/status/825566950675845120 https://twitter.com/justintrudeau/status/825566950675845120

by plg 10y ago

nrjdhsbsid 10y ago

I assume this is because some countries make it really easy to get citizenship. It would be quite a loophole to just hop over to country X for a few months then onto the US

plg 10y ago
UK ??!
- robjan 10y ago
  It's not particularly trivial to become a citizen of the UK. It involves living in the country for years and passing a test. This is in line with most other countries.
Broken_Hippo 10y ago
Then it would make sense to list those countries' dual citizens or naturalized citizens as ones that would take more scrutiny. But Any country other than the US? Heck, I know what I'm going through with immigration here in Norway, and I have one of the easier immigration avenues - marriage. Work and school are quite a bit more difficult. It usually requires one to live here for at least 7 years first: Marriage can cut that in half. That comes with things like the possiblity of having our house inspected so that the authorities are convinced we are living like a married couple and possible interviews with my spouse. Some countries have a more thorough check. It just isn't the bureaucratic lottery nightmare that it is in the states. That doesn't mean that it is easy, merely better run and reasonable.

KirinDave 10y ago

This is the crux of the illegality of the procilmation. It's been illegal to use birthplace as grounds to deny immigration since the 60's, largely because of the incredible prejudice we saw towards Asians and Asian Americans.

plg 10y ago

Edit: Apparently Canadians with dual citizenship with one of the 7 countries, are OK to enter the US: https://twitter.com/justintrudeau/status/825566950675845120 https://twitter.com/justintrudeau/status/825566950675845120