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Well, we definitely should not pander to them. I actually think most people (Trump supporters, you, me, everyone) vote mostly based on identity (liberal/conser

Well, we definitely should not pander to them. I actually think most people (Trump supporters, you, me, everyone) vote mostly based on identity (liberal/conservative, religion, race, open-minded, well-mannered, etc). I think Trump supporters mostly voted for the party that they most identified with, the guy they thought was on their side. And I think you did the same. (I see myself as unaligned and open-minded, thus I voted for someone else as I found both sides to be extreme and closed-minded.) But, maybe I'm wrong. Maybe most Trump supporters are horrible people. But they are still people. Like you and me, they have a dark and a noble side. And, just like you and me, they are not going to listen to the reasons of someone who insults them. So what do we gain from demonizing them? We only lose influence.

551199 10y ago
Republicans were against Trump. He's a centric independent who run as republican. By all means liberals keep doubling down on identity politics. The anti-fascist are the new fascist. Democrats were against Lincoln as well. Trump will be championed as modern day hero who was opposed by the most hateful people.
infinite8s 10y ago
Do you think its possible to change their minds?
- thedevil 10y ago
  Yes. If it weren't possible to influence people's political positions, I think we wouldn't have campaigns or other political movements or organizations.
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vedranm 10y ago
Trump supporter here. Unfortunately not a citizen, so I couldn't vote. I believe, as do many people in the world, that US Presidential Election is worth following due to the influence that USA has on the rest of the world. You are right about the ideology being very important. I originally supported Rand Paul [1] and moved to Trump when Paul dropped out. I wish either Ron Paul or Rand Paul would be the nominee of GOP and sincerely believe that is the purest form of Republicanism that currently exists out there. I support both the ideology and the priorities that both of them are pushing. However, since we couldn't get Rand Paul, Trump was the next best choice this season. I can't stand any of the Democrats right now. I wish they instead nominated someone like Elon Musk, who would cut on identity politics, political correctness and similar things that are being pushed so hard to divide us instead of uniting us; e pluribus unum. I would like to see a future nominee focus on the scientific and technological development, abolishment or at least a reform of the patent system, ending NSA spying, etc. [1] https://randpaul.com/issues https://randpaul.com/issues
disantlor 10y ago
certainly bubbles exist on both sides but only one side is proudly anti-intellectual, anti-science, increasingly anti-reason, etc etc people have dark and noble sides, sure, but the balance of them is not always the same at protests in nyc last night people were chanting for love and no hate, all our welcome, this is your land. maybe that's corny, but compare that to "lock her up" and "build the wall" there is a right and there is a wrong.
- mememachine 10y ago
  youre a sith bro

551199 10y ago

Republicans were against Trump. He's a centric independent who run as republican. By all means liberals keep doubling down on identity politics. The anti-fascist are the new fascist. Democrats were against Lincoln as well. Trump will be championed as modern day hero who was opposed by the most hateful people.

infinite8s 10y ago

Do you think its possible to change their minds?

thedevil 10y ago
Yes. If it weren't possible to influence people's political positions, I think we wouldn't have campaigns or other political movements or organizations.
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vedranm 10y ago

Trump supporter here. Unfortunately not a citizen, so I couldn't vote. I believe, as do many people in the world, that US Presidential Election is worth following due to the influence that USA has on the rest of the world. You are right about the ideology being very important. I originally supported Rand Paul [1] and moved to Trump when Paul dropped out. I wish either Ron Paul or Rand Paul would be the nominee of GOP and sincerely believe that is the purest form of Republicanism that currently exists out there. I support both the ideology and the priorities that both of them are pushing. However, since we couldn't get Rand Paul, Trump was the next best choice this season. I can't stand any of the Democrats right now. I wish they instead nominated someone like Elon Musk, who would cut on identity politics, political correctness and similar things that are being pushed so hard to divide us instead of uniting us; e pluribus unum. I would like to see a future nominee focus on the scientific and technological development, abolishment or at least a reform of the patent system, ending NSA spying, etc. [1] https://randpaul.com/issues https://randpaul.com/issues

disantlor 10y ago

certainly bubbles exist on both sides but only one side is proudly anti-intellectual, anti-science, increasingly anti-reason, etc etc people have dark and noble sides, sure, but the balance of them is not always the same at protests in nyc last night people were chanting for love and no hate, all our welcome, this is your land. maybe that's corny, but compare that to "lock her up" and "build the wall" there is a right and there is a wrong.

mememachine 10y ago
youre a sith bro