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Honest question: how do you think a country where nearly half of its population are "bad people" should be governed? I can't imagine you'll actually be success

by cderwin 10y ago

Honest question: how do you think a country where nearly half of its population are "bad people" should be governed? I can't imagine you'll actually be successful in pushing away one out of every two Americans. What do you think would be proper action to devalue the influence of these people and where in the world would you draw the line?

jacquesm 10y ago
> Honest question: how do you think a country where nearly half of its population are "bad people" should be governed? Historically, if such countries are made up in such a way that there is a well defined geographical split the country will break up.
normaljoe 10y ago
Not sure where you get nearly half when less then a third of the population voted for Trump. Nearly half of the population didn't even bother to vote. Are you referring to his approval rating which is questionable with polls of 36% to 55%? I'm also not calling a Trump voter a "bad person" just asking about the number of people in context to the discussion.
- cderwin 10y ago
  Well, it's nearly half of the voting population and I think it's fair to extrapolate that to the entire population. Even taking the approval poll numbers, that's more than one in three, so I don't really think it changes my above comment much, if at all.
cryoshon 10y ago
unfortunately, my answer to this is hypocritical, given the trump presidency: drag the regressives kicking and screaming into a more liberal future, one step at a time, carrying their dead weight as gently and as gracefully as we can, because it's the right thing to do. i don't care if it sounds scary: the backward people of the world are our brethren, and we can't leave them behind even though they're inconvenient and ungrateful. they resent us looking down on them, but they have earned it. it's what we as a liberal society have done for 200+ years now. the conservatives never get tired of losing on the long term because they frequently win battles in the short term. the march toward enlightenment would be much faster without the dead weight of the viciously tribalistic and the willfully ignorant. but they're humans too, so we're obligated to improve the lives of their grandchildren by working toward a better future today. their grandchildren will be more liberal, and so, we'll have won. this is a paternalistic view, to be sure. but we've seen how inept the backward tribes are at managing their own futures... and how much effort they expend on trying to ruin it for everyone else. better to let more evolved minds guide the rubes.

by cderwin 10y ago

jacquesm 10y ago

> Honest question: how do you think a country where nearly half of its population are "bad people" should be governed? Historically, if such countries are made up in such a way that there is a well defined geographical split the country will break up.

normaljoe 10y ago

Not sure where you get nearly half when less then a third of the population voted for Trump. Nearly half of the population didn't even bother to vote. Are you referring to his approval rating which is questionable with polls of 36% to 55%? I'm also not calling a Trump voter a "bad person" just asking about the number of people in context to the discussion.

cderwin 10y ago
Well, it's nearly half of the voting population and I think it's fair to extrapolate that to the entire population. Even taking the approval poll numbers, that's more than one in three, so I don't really think it changes my above comment much, if at all.

cryoshon 10y ago

unfortunately, my answer to this is hypocritical, given the trump presidency: drag the regressives kicking and screaming into a more liberal future, one step at a time, carrying their dead weight as gently and as gracefully as we can, because it's the right thing to do. i don't care if it sounds scary: the backward people of the world are our brethren, and we can't leave them behind even though they're inconvenient and ungrateful. they resent us looking down on them, but they have earned it. it's what we as a liberal society have done for 200+ years now. the conservatives never get tired of losing on the long term because they frequently win battles in the short term. the march toward enlightenment would be much faster without the dead weight of the viciously tribalistic and the willfully ignorant. but they're humans too, so we're obligated to improve the lives of their grandchildren by working toward a better future today. their grandchildren will be more liberal, and so, we'll have won. this is a paternalistic view, to be sure. but we've seen how inept the backward tribes are at managing their own futures... and how much effort they expend on trying to ruin it for everyone else. better to let more evolved minds guide the rubes.