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On the Christian Broadcasting Network no less. This is morally repugnant.

patrickg_zill 10y ago
Yet we never heard from you during the years the Obama administration did the opposite... Syria is over 10% Christian, yet only 56 of the ~10K Syrians let into the country were Christian.
- facetube 10y ago
  Heard from who? This is a major, major problem with political discourse in America right now. We are acting reflexively. We are engaging in collective punishment. We are making unproven assumptions.
- ebola1717 10y ago
  It took 2 seconds of googling to fact check you http://www.factcheck.org/2015/11/facts-about-the-syrian-refugees/ http://www.factcheck.org/2015/11/facts-about-the-syrian-refu...
  - patrickg_zill 10y ago
    How could a stat from 11/2015 possibly cover anything that only concluded in 2016? Is Newsweek part of the Trump train? http://www.newsweek.com/us-bars-christian-not-muslim-refugees-syria-497494 http://www.newsweek.com/us-bars-christian-not-muslim-refugee... (mid-Sept 2016).
  - deno 10y ago
    Your source doesn’t dispute the accuracy of this number at all: > Cruz is rounding up, but he is correct about the percentage of Christians among the Syrian refugees who have resettled in the United States. > A total of 2,290 Syrian refugees have arrived in the United States since fiscal year 2011, which is when the Syrian civil war began, through Nov. 20, according to the State Department’s Refugee Processing Center. Of those, only 62 were identified in the center’s database as Christian. That’s 2.7 percent, even though the Christian population in Syria is about 10 percent, according to the CIA World Factbook. All it says is that the UN stacked the pool, and Obama never challenged it.
    - gns24 10y ago
      Or maybe the areas where most Christians live were less affected by the war?
      - facetube 10y ago
        Precisely: http://www.cbsnews.com/news/syrias-christians-stand-by-assad/ http://www.cbsnews.com/news/syrias-christians-stand-by-assad... More detail here: http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/04/25/why-syrian-american-christians-love-donald-trump.html http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/04/25/why-syrian-...
- burkaman 10y ago
  1. Obama is no longer president, this is not a particularly relevant point. 2. We did hear about it, Ted Cruz could not stop talking about it. 3. Refugees are referred to the US by the UNHCR. If their referrals don't reflect the demographics of Syria, that's not something we can directly or easily change. 4. Christians are 10% of Syria, but it's not clear that they would be 10% of refugees. I couldn't immediately find any statistics on that.
- megous 10y ago
  Misleading statistic. Compare the distribution of people who asked to immigrate, not the population of the whole country.
  - refurb 10y ago
    Yet Christians are specifically being targeted in Syria.[1] Wouldn't you think they would be the first ones who want to leave? [1]https://www.nytimes.com/2015/07/26/magazine/is-this-the-end-of-christianity-in-the-middle-east.html https://www.nytimes.com/2015/07/26/magazine/is-this-the-end-... By the way, this article is from one of your reputable news sources.
    - facetube 10y ago
      You'll be happy to know that coalition forces have retaken the city of Qaraqosh, referenced in your 2015 article: http://www.cnn.com/2016/10/19/middleeast/mosul-isis-operation-iraq/ http://www.cnn.com/2016/10/19/middleeast/mosul-isis-operatio...
    - zardeh 10y ago
      But would they be more likely to be refugees? That is, I'd expect that a Christian in the middle east would be more likely to have citizenship or family in a western nation than your average Syrian. Now it could be, but 'they are being specifically targeted' doesn't immediately imply to me that 'they should be a disproportionately high number of refugees'. That story mentions Bishops and priests who are very likely to not be Syrian Citizens, and instead be capable of just flying back to their home countries.
      - refurb 10y ago
        That is, I'd expect that a Christian in the middle east would be more likely to have citizenship or family in a western nation than your average Syrian. Why would you assume that? These are Syrian Christians who have lived their for centuries. They are no different than other Syrians other than their religious beliefs.
- becarefulyo 10y ago
  Irrelevant troll.

Yet we never heard from you during the years the Obama administration did the opposite... Syria is over 10% Christian, yet only 56 of the ~10K Syrians let into the country were Christian.

facetube 10y ago
Heard from who? This is a major, major problem with political discourse in America right now. We are acting reflexively. We are engaging in collective punishment. We are making unproven assumptions.
ebola1717 10y ago
It took 2 seconds of googling to fact check you http://www.factcheck.org/2015/11/facts-about-the-syrian-refugees/ http://www.factcheck.org/2015/11/facts-about-the-syrian-refu...
- patrickg_zill 10y ago
  How could a stat from 11/2015 possibly cover anything that only concluded in 2016? Is Newsweek part of the Trump train? http://www.newsweek.com/us-bars-christian-not-muslim-refugees-syria-497494 http://www.newsweek.com/us-bars-christian-not-muslim-refugee... (mid-Sept 2016).
- deno 10y ago
  Your source doesn’t dispute the accuracy of this number at all: > Cruz is rounding up, but he is correct about the percentage of Christians among the Syrian refugees who have resettled in the United States. > A total of 2,290 Syrian refugees have arrived in the United States since fiscal year 2011, which is when the Syrian civil war began, through Nov. 20, according to the State Department’s Refugee Processing Center. Of those, only 62 were identified in the center’s database as Christian. That’s 2.7 percent, even though the Christian population in Syria is about 10 percent, according to the CIA World Factbook. All it says is that the UN stacked the pool, and Obama never challenged it.
  - gns24 10y ago
    Or maybe the areas where most Christians live were less affected by the war?
    - facetube 10y ago
      Precisely: http://www.cbsnews.com/news/syrias-christians-stand-by-assad/ http://www.cbsnews.com/news/syrias-christians-stand-by-assad... More detail here: http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/04/25/why-syrian-american-christians-love-donald-trump.html http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/04/25/why-syrian-...
burkaman 10y ago
1. Obama is no longer president, this is not a particularly relevant point. 2. We did hear about it, Ted Cruz could not stop talking about it. 3. Refugees are referred to the US by the UNHCR. If their referrals don't reflect the demographics of Syria, that's not something we can directly or easily change. 4. Christians are 10% of Syria, but it's not clear that they would be 10% of refugees. I couldn't immediately find any statistics on that.
megous 10y ago
Misleading statistic. Compare the distribution of people who asked to immigrate, not the population of the whole country.
- refurb 10y ago
  Yet Christians are specifically being targeted in Syria.[1] Wouldn't you think they would be the first ones who want to leave? [1]https://www.nytimes.com/2015/07/26/magazine/is-this-the-end-of-christianity-in-the-middle-east.html https://www.nytimes.com/2015/07/26/magazine/is-this-the-end-... By the way, this article is from one of your reputable news sources.
  - facetube 10y ago
    You'll be happy to know that coalition forces have retaken the city of Qaraqosh, referenced in your 2015 article: http://www.cnn.com/2016/10/19/middleeast/mosul-isis-operation-iraq/ http://www.cnn.com/2016/10/19/middleeast/mosul-isis-operatio...
  - zardeh 10y ago
    But would they be more likely to be refugees? That is, I'd expect that a Christian in the middle east would be more likely to have citizenship or family in a western nation than your average Syrian. Now it could be, but 'they are being specifically targeted' doesn't immediately imply to me that 'they should be a disproportionately high number of refugees'. That story mentions Bishops and priests who are very likely to not be Syrian Citizens, and instead be capable of just flying back to their home countries.
    - refurb 10y ago
      That is, I'd expect that a Christian in the middle east would be more likely to have citizenship or family in a western nation than your average Syrian. Why would you assume that? These are Syrian Christians who have lived their for centuries. They are no different than other Syrians other than their religious beliefs.
becarefulyo 10y ago
Irrelevant troll.