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Article is flagged? Trump is trying to manipulate the media to suppress discussion of bad things he does. His trolls have succeeded in suppressing this discus

by mhneu 10y ago

Article is flagged? Trump is trying to manipulate the media to suppress discussion of bad things he does. His trolls have succeeded in suppressing this discussion on HN. A win for Trump and bad for the rest of us.

grzm 10y ago
The HN guidelines specifically ask not to use HN to submit posts like this. Please don't post on HN to ask or tell us something (e.g. to ask us questions about Y Combinator, or to ask or complain about moderation). If you want to say something to us, please send it to hn@ycombinator.com. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html On this topic in particular, the discussion is doing little to actually advance conversation and understanding. Your comment itself "His trolls have succeeded in suppressing this discussion on HN" is evidence of that, regardless of what other people are posting. This isn't constructive, civil, or substantive. Edit to add: In the hopes of better communication, if you'd like to down vote this comment, will you also take the time to add a brief reply? I appreciate it.
- mhneu 10y ago
  Awareness is constructive. Hearing views from abroad is constructive. There are voices here from tech workers in Scandinavia that I couldn't find in traditional news outlets. HN is poorer if it focuses on tech only and not on how society is influenced. Probably I should post some on Feynman's writing on this topic. Have a good day
  - grzm 10y ago
    Awareness is constructive. Hearing views from abroad is constructive. There are voices here from tech workers in Scandinavia that I couldn't find in traditional news outlets. Yes, awareness is constructive. Is there anything in this thread that isn't elsewhere on HN (and likely in spades)? I'm not at all arguing against being able to discuss constructively how society is influenced. Tech in and of itself may be interesting, but it's ultimately empty if it's not used to benefit society. That said, the comments in this thread are not people talking to each other to reach any kind of understanding (even if not agreement). Can you point to any three exchanges where that's happening? Even our exchange, I feel like you've reacted to my comment as only an argument for the submission to be flagged while ignoring why I thought it has been. It has nothing to do with it being non-tech. It has to do with (a) Ask HN's aren't for addressing YC or YC companies, and (b) whether the discussion is actually accomplishing anything. Flamewars do little to advanced anything constructive, even awareness. HN is for civil and substantive discussion. There are plenty of places elsewhere where people can post micro-rants at each other. HN isn't supposed to be one of them.

by mhneu 10y ago

grzm 10y ago

The HN guidelines specifically ask not to use HN to submit posts like this. Please don't post on HN to ask or tell us something (e.g. to ask us questions about Y Combinator, or to ask or complain about moderation). If you want to say something to us, please send it to hn@ycombinator.com. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html On this topic in particular, the discussion is doing little to actually advance conversation and understanding. Your comment itself "His trolls have succeeded in suppressing this discussion on HN" is evidence of that, regardless of what other people are posting. This isn't constructive, civil, or substantive. Edit to add: In the hopes of better communication, if you'd like to down vote this comment, will you also take the time to add a brief reply? I appreciate it.

mhneu 10y ago
Awareness is constructive. Hearing views from abroad is constructive. There are voices here from tech workers in Scandinavia that I couldn't find in traditional news outlets. HN is poorer if it focuses on tech only and not on how society is influenced. Probably I should post some on Feynman's writing on this topic. Have a good day
- grzm 10y ago
  Awareness is constructive. Hearing views from abroad is constructive. There are voices here from tech workers in Scandinavia that I couldn't find in traditional news outlets. Yes, awareness is constructive. Is there anything in this thread that isn't elsewhere on HN (and likely in spades)? I'm not at all arguing against being able to discuss constructively how society is influenced. Tech in and of itself may be interesting, but it's ultimately empty if it's not used to benefit society. That said, the comments in this thread are not people talking to each other to reach any kind of understanding (even if not agreement). Can you point to any three exchanges where that's happening? Even our exchange, I feel like you've reacted to my comment as only an argument for the submission to be flagged while ignoring why I thought it has been. It has nothing to do with it being non-tech. It has to do with (a) Ask HN's aren't for addressing YC or YC companies, and (b) whether the discussion is actually accomplishing anything. Flamewars do little to advanced anything constructive, even awareness. HN is for civil and substantive discussion. There are plenty of places elsewhere where people can post micro-rants at each other. HN isn't supposed to be one of them.