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Steve Bannon is simply a White Supremacist, there isn't really any argumentation to speak of.

by s_kilk 10y ago

cabalamat 10y ago
> Steve Bannon is simply a White Supremacist No, I don't think he is, in that he doesn't want whites to lord it over non-whites. What he wants, as I understand it, is for different races and cultures to live in different societies/countries.
- becarefulyo 10y ago
  So he believes in racial segregation but is not racist?
  - cabalamat 10y ago
    I didn't say he isn't a racist.
- mhneu 10y ago
  That kind of segregation within nations is a recipe for wars and conflict. It didn't work out well for the Nazis and the neo-Nazis wanting the same thing also seems like a bad idea.
- geofft 10y ago
  Then he's welcome to be the senior counselor to the president of an all-white country. America, though, is distinctly not an all-white country. Does he want to make it one? Am I, as an American-born child of Indian immigrants, expected to move somewhere else?
  - actsasbuffoon 10y ago
    Sadly, I believe the answer is yes. Richard B. Spencer is a leading figure in the American Alt-Right (he even created the name). Here's a section from the beginning of his Wikipedia article: Richard Bertrand Spencer (born May 11, 1978) is a noted American white supremacist. He is president of the National Policy Institute, a white nationalist think tank, and Washington Summit Publishers, an independent publishing firm. Spencer has stated that he rejects the description of white supremacist, and describes himself as an identitarian. He advocates for a white homeland for a "dispossessed white race" and calls for "peaceful ethnic cleansing" to halt the "deconstruction" of European culture. I'm not sure what a "peaceful ethnic cleansing" would look like, and I don't think I want to find out.
    - s_kilk 10y ago
      > I'm not sure what a "peaceful ethnic cleansing" would look like Peaceful for himself I suppose. He'd like to be nice and cozy, miles from the action, while it's being carried out. The more that lad get's slapped about the place, the better I feel.
    - cabalamat 10y ago
      > I'm not sure what a "peaceful ethnic cleansing" would look like It's clearly impossible.
- jonathankoren 10y ago
  White supremacist crowd has been evolving the the last 20 years, but at it's core is still "whites are the best." The biggest change I've seen since their adoption of scientific racism (now known as "human biodiversity") came with the publication of the Bell Curve back in 1994. They had to reconcile their views that whites were the best in all things with the stereotype of the smart asian kid and black professional athlete. So now the whites are in the best all around race. The most inventive, the most adaptive, blah blah blah. Seriously, it sounds like someone took the alien races from space opera, or D&D and made white the humans. Then of course they bring up "white genocide" and are staunch antimiscegenationists.

Steve Bannon is simply a White Supremacist, there isn't really any argumentation to speak of.

by s_kilk 10y ago

Steve Bannon is simply a White Supremacist, there isn't really any argumentation to speak of.

> Steve Bannon is simply a White Supremacist No, I don't think he is, in that he doesn't want whites to lord it over non-whites. What he wants, as I understand it, is for different races and cultures to live in different societies/countries.

becarefulyo 10y ago
So he believes in racial segregation but is not racist?
- cabalamat 10y ago
  I didn't say he isn't a racist.
mhneu 10y ago
That kind of segregation within nations is a recipe for wars and conflict. It didn't work out well for the Nazis and the neo-Nazis wanting the same thing also seems like a bad idea.
geofft 10y ago
Then he's welcome to be the senior counselor to the president of an all-white country. America, though, is distinctly not an all-white country. Does he want to make it one? Am I, as an American-born child of Indian immigrants, expected to move somewhere else?
- actsasbuffoon 10y ago
  Sadly, I believe the answer is yes. Richard B. Spencer is a leading figure in the American Alt-Right (he even created the name). Here's a section from the beginning of his Wikipedia article: Richard Bertrand Spencer (born May 11, 1978) is a noted American white supremacist. He is president of the National Policy Institute, a white nationalist think tank, and Washington Summit Publishers, an independent publishing firm. Spencer has stated that he rejects the description of white supremacist, and describes himself as an identitarian. He advocates for a white homeland for a "dispossessed white race" and calls for "peaceful ethnic cleansing" to halt the "deconstruction" of European culture. I'm not sure what a "peaceful ethnic cleansing" would look like, and I don't think I want to find out.
  - s_kilk 10y ago
    > I'm not sure what a "peaceful ethnic cleansing" would look like Peaceful for himself I suppose. He'd like to be nice and cozy, miles from the action, while it's being carried out. The more that lad get's slapped about the place, the better I feel.
  - cabalamat 10y ago
    > I'm not sure what a "peaceful ethnic cleansing" would look like It's clearly impossible.
jonathankoren 10y ago
White supremacist crowd has been evolving the the last 20 years, but at it's core is still "whites are the best." The biggest change I've seen since their adoption of scientific racism (now known as "human biodiversity") came with the publication of the Bell Curve back in 1994. They had to reconcile their views that whites were the best in all things with the stereotype of the smart asian kid and black professional athlete. So now the whites are in the best all around race. The most inventive, the most adaptive, blah blah blah. Seriously, it sounds like someone took the alien races from space opera, or D&D and made white the humans. Then of course they bring up "white genocide" and are staunch antimiscegenationists.