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We may be closer than we thought to dangerous climate thresholds

24 points by SmkyMt 10y ago

paulddraper 10y ago
"Within a few years snowfall will become a very rare and exciting event [in Britain]. Children just aren't going to know what snow is," David Viner (2000) In 10 years, California will be flooded and parts of Netherlands unlivable, and mass increases in number of hurricanes and tornadoes. Pentagon (2003) By 2010 there will be 50 million "climate refugees" from rising sea levels and other changes. United Nations Environment Programme (2005) The poles will be "ice-free" by 2013. Al Gore (2007-2009) --- Coincidentally, this Guardian article was published almost exactly 11 years from the ten year mark given by Al Gore as the point of no return. https://wattsupwiththat.com/2016/01/02/24-days-to-al-gores-10-years-to-save-the-planet-and-point-of-no-return-planetary-emergency-deadline/ https://wattsupwiththat.com/2016/01/02/24-days-to-al-gores-1... How could we be closer than past the point of no return?
- Oletros 10y ago
  Taking into account that the quote from the Pentagon is from a hypothetic scenario I'll take the rest of quotes without sources as if it were the same. WUWT? Really? By the way, since when Al Gore has been a climate scientist?
  - paulddraper 10y ago
    You're right that An Abrupt Climate Change Scenario and Its Implications for US National Security claimed to be "plausible" though "not the most likely". However, it's since been cited and circulated by many science organizations, e.g. Columbia's Environmental Science department (http://eesc.columbia.edu/courses/v1003/readings/Pentagon.pdf http://eesc.columbia.edu/courses/v1003/readings/Pentagon.pdf) > By the way, since when Al Gore has been a climate scientist? I think since around the same time he invented the internet.
    - Oletros 10y ago
      > I think since around the same time he invented the internet Oh, another thing he never said. It is so predictable
    - tzs 10y ago
      > I think since around the same time he invented the internet On the remote chance that you are not trolling: http://www.snopes.com/quotes/internet.asp http://www.snopes.com/quotes/internet.asp

24 points by SmkyMt 10y ago

"Within a few years snowfall will become a very rare and exciting event [in Britain]. Children just aren't going to know what snow is," David Viner (2000) In 10 years, California will be flooded and parts of Netherlands unlivable, and mass increases in number of hurricanes and tornadoes. Pentagon (2003) By 2010 there will be 50 million "climate refugees" from rising sea levels and other changes. United Nations Environment Programme (2005) The poles will be "ice-free" by 2013. Al Gore (2007-2009) --- Coincidentally, this Guardian article was published almost exactly 11 years from the ten year mark given by Al Gore as the point of no return. https://wattsupwiththat.com/2016/01/02/24-days-to-al-gores-10-years-to-save-the-planet-and-point-of-no-return-planetary-emergency-deadline/ https://wattsupwiththat.com/2016/01/02/24-days-to-al-gores-1... How could we be closer than past the point of no return?

Oletros 10y ago
Taking into account that the quote from the Pentagon is from a hypothetic scenario I'll take the rest of quotes without sources as if it were the same. WUWT? Really? By the way, since when Al Gore has been a climate scientist?
- paulddraper 10y ago
  You're right that An Abrupt Climate Change Scenario and Its Implications for US National Security claimed to be "plausible" though "not the most likely". However, it's since been cited and circulated by many science organizations, e.g. Columbia's Environmental Science department (http://eesc.columbia.edu/courses/v1003/readings/Pentagon.pdf http://eesc.columbia.edu/courses/v1003/readings/Pentagon.pdf) > By the way, since when Al Gore has been a climate scientist? I think since around the same time he invented the internet.
  - Oletros 10y ago
    > I think since around the same time he invented the internet Oh, another thing he never said. It is so predictable
  - tzs 10y ago
    > I think since around the same time he invented the internet On the remote chance that you are not trolling: http://www.snopes.com/quotes/internet.asp http://www.snopes.com/quotes/internet.asp