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That wasn't immigration. That was the dislocation of one people by another. 90% of Indians died shortly after first contact because of smallpox, which moved fas

by notpc 10y ago

That wasn't immigration. That was the dislocation of one people by another. 90% of Indians died shortly after first contact because of smallpox, which moved faster than the Europeans themselves did. And of course, if the Indians had their informed choice, they would never have wanted Europeans to come. But they didn't have the power to do anything about it. This world doesn't care about right and wrong, only weak and strong. Edit: Actually you're dead wrong. There was no immigration essentially from the start of the republic until the late 1800s, and again almost none between 1920 and 1950. And until the 60s, it was only from European societies for the most part.

DannyBee 10y ago
I notice, again, that you've decided to focus only on the one rhetorical flourish, and not answer any of the questions to which the answer clearly is "actually, our immigration policy has never been like that in the history of the country, and the only reason i'm here is because of that. But it's time to turn it off because i've already got mine".
- denzil_correa 10y ago
  > "actually, our immigration policy has never been like that in the history of the country, and the only reason i'm here is because of that. But it's time to turn it off because i've already got mine". You've hit the nail of the head and that part "I've got mine", is really what it is.
- shard972 10y ago
  It's time to turn off immigration from countries that have cultures that actively conflict with western culture and it's values. As a homosexual, I don't want immigration from countries where 90% of the population think it's completely rational to jail and execute people for being gay.
- notpc 10y ago
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigration_Act_of_1924 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigration_Act_of_1924
hyperpape 10y ago
There was plenty of German immigration between 1810 and the civil war: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_Americans#19th_century https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_Americans#19th_century Also, I have no idea why you think it relevant that they were European. Certainly Ben Franklin didn't: http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2008/02/swarthy-germans/48324/ http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2008/02/swarthy-.... At the time of actual immigration, the majority opinion was not that Italians, Poles or Jews were desirable immigrants.

by notpc 10y ago

DannyBee 10y ago

I notice, again, that you've decided to focus only on the one rhetorical flourish, and not answer any of the questions to which the answer clearly is "actually, our immigration policy has never been like that in the history of the country, and the only reason i'm here is because of that. But it's time to turn it off because i've already got mine".

denzil_correa 10y ago
> "actually, our immigration policy has never been like that in the history of the country, and the only reason i'm here is because of that. But it's time to turn it off because i've already got mine". You've hit the nail of the head and that part "I've got mine", is really what it is.
shard972 10y ago
It's time to turn off immigration from countries that have cultures that actively conflict with western culture and it's values. As a homosexual, I don't want immigration from countries where 90% of the population think it's completely rational to jail and execute people for being gay.
notpc 10y ago
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigration_Act_of_1924 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigration_Act_of_1924

hyperpape 10y ago

There was plenty of German immigration between 1810 and the civil war: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_Americans#19th_century https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_Americans#19th_century Also, I have no idea why you think it relevant that they were European. Certainly Ben Franklin didn't: http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2008/02/swarthy-germans/48324/ http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2008/02/swarthy-.... At the time of actual immigration, the majority opinion was not that Italians, Poles or Jews were desirable immigrants.