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Absolutetly. +1 for the "no javascript" goal.

mrmondo 10y ago
I'm so sick of 'designers' thinking they're programmers and smashing out some NodeJS or JavaScript heavy crap with no regards to performance or security. Elixir seems to attract some smart minds that think 'big picture' - obviously I'm generalising here and I'm not stating that this particular project is brilliant or anything but it is a trend I've observed.
- huduo 10y ago
  NodeJS is a dependency in the usage instructions for Debian 7 and CentOS.
  - swiley 10y ago
    Ew, what for?
    - luckystartup 10y ago
      The creators of Phoenix didn't want to write their own code to manage Javascript and CSS (e.g. rewriting the Rails "asset pipeline" in Elixir), so they just integrated Brunch [1], which is built on Node.js and NPM. I think this was an excellent decision. (Node.js is only needed during development and deployment of your assets. It is not used in production.) [1] http://brunch.io http://brunch.io
      - dingdingdang 10y ago
        That is still pretty awful imo - think quite a few of the people considering Elixir and Phoenix are doing so explicitly to get away from having to Node.js close to their computers in the first place.
        yellowapple 10y ago
        I personally don't consider it a problem if I don't personally have to touch it. Phoenix does that reasonably well.
        true_religion 10y ago
        I don't see the problem. Why not use Javascript toolkits to package, and develop in Javascript? I can understand languages not self-hosting their compilers, but I'd at least like it to self-host its toolkits---bundlers, packers, preprocessors, etc.
  - eeZah7Ux 10y ago
    It's not needed, thankfully: https://github.com/sergiotapia/magnetissimo/issues/30 https://github.com/sergiotapia/magnetissimo/issues/30
  - anuragsoni 10y ago
    This project is using Phoenix. Nodejs is an optional dependency to compile static assets like CSS etc. It's not actually required to write applications using Phoenix.
  - kenning 10y ago
    the team removed all the javascript overnight
eeZah7Ux 10y ago
+1 indeed, the unnecessary use of javascript everywhere is making the Internet unusable to people with slow connections and computers (possibly 1 billion worldwide) and security conscious users (e.g. Tor browser users)

I'm so sick of 'designers' thinking they're programmers and smashing out some NodeJS or JavaScript heavy crap with no regards to performance or security. Elixir seems to attract some smart minds that think 'big picture' - obviously I'm generalising here and I'm not stating that this particular project is brilliant or anything but it is a trend I've observed.

huduo 10y ago
NodeJS is a dependency in the usage instructions for Debian 7 and CentOS.
- swiley 10y ago
  Ew, what for?
  - luckystartup 10y ago
    The creators of Phoenix didn't want to write their own code to manage Javascript and CSS (e.g. rewriting the Rails "asset pipeline" in Elixir), so they just integrated Brunch [1], which is built on Node.js and NPM. I think this was an excellent decision. (Node.js is only needed during development and deployment of your assets. It is not used in production.) [1] http://brunch.io http://brunch.io
    - dingdingdang 10y ago
      That is still pretty awful imo - think quite a few of the people considering Elixir and Phoenix are doing so explicitly to get away from having to Node.js close to their computers in the first place.
      - yellowapple 10y ago
        I personally don't consider it a problem if I don't personally have to touch it. Phoenix does that reasonably well.
      - true_religion 10y ago
        I don't see the problem. Why not use Javascript toolkits to package, and develop in Javascript? I can understand languages not self-hosting their compilers, but I'd at least like it to self-host its toolkits---bundlers, packers, preprocessors, etc.
- eeZah7Ux 10y ago
  It's not needed, thankfully: https://github.com/sergiotapia/magnetissimo/issues/30 https://github.com/sergiotapia/magnetissimo/issues/30
- anuragsoni 10y ago
  This project is using Phoenix. Nodejs is an optional dependency to compile static assets like CSS etc. It's not actually required to write applications using Phoenix.
- kenning 10y ago
  the team removed all the javascript overnight

eeZah7Ux 10y ago

+1 indeed, the unnecessary use of javascript everywhere is making the Internet unusable to people with slow connections and computers (possibly 1 billion worldwide) and security conscious users (e.g. Tor browser users)