That's basically the "don't keep references into a Vec, keep indices" advise. I don't really like that because references explicitly encode the dependency in th

That's basically the "don't keep references into a Vec, keep indices" advise. I don't really like that because references explicitly encode the dependency in the type system. When you start juggling indices you're basically implementing poor man's malloc. You need to make sure you don't lose track of any of them. I think owned objects should have lifetimes and a "points to non-moving memory" property. E.g. a vec can be moved and must outlive all the objects that take references from it. That way it would be possible to keep an owned object and refs to it in the same struct and pass the whole bundle around.