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Once this happens I will leave Firefox after being one of its strongest supporters for years. What makes Firefox worth it is the level to which I can customize

by 51Cards 10y ago

Once this happens I will leave Firefox after being one of its strongest supporters for years. What makes Firefox worth it is the level to which I can customize it and this will knock out 5 of my must-have add-ons in one shot. When you do that you have nothing but a Chrome clone left and why use a Chrome clone when you can use Chrome. I hate Chrome because I feel locked in on UI design (old-school user here). Once FF takes away my options guaranteed I'll abandon it.

jdormit 10y ago
If the only reason you hate Chrome is being locked into the UI, you should switch to Vivaldi. Sure, it's a Chrome clone, but the UI is super configurable (and as far as I'm aware, it doesn't do any opt-out user tracking).
- yellowapple 10y ago
  Is Vivaldi free software (as in speech, not as in beer)? Last time I gave it a serious go, it didn't seem to be (and it was buggy anyway, but that was when it was first made publicly available, so I'm sure that's improved, right?).
rvern 10y ago
> When you do that you have nothing but a Chrome clone left and why use a Chrome clone when you can use Chrome. Why use Chrome when you can use a Chrome clone that better respects your privacy, is open source, and gives you more freedom to configure it? Because it's more secure or faster? It won't be for long: that's exactly what Mozilla is working on. At the expense, yes, of some configurability.
- Jaepa 10y ago
  Security is debatable. Sand boxing was just introduced. Customizable maybe, but between the australis, xul deprecation, and the limited theming API I don't think Mozilla really cares. Also for a open source browser. Are you aware the is chromium? Or hell any number of electron based web browsers (which is also chromium). Edit and loss of configurability is not the issue. Loss of Functionality is.
cronjobber 10y ago
> why use a Chrome clone when you can use Chrome If every browser looked exactly like Chrome, I'd still choose the one that contained the least amount of Google.

by 51Cards 10y ago

jdormit 10y ago

If the only reason you hate Chrome is being locked into the UI, you should switch to Vivaldi. Sure, it's a Chrome clone, but the UI is super configurable (and as far as I'm aware, it doesn't do any opt-out user tracking).

yellowapple 10y ago
Is Vivaldi free software (as in speech, not as in beer)? Last time I gave it a serious go, it didn't seem to be (and it was buggy anyway, but that was when it was first made publicly available, so I'm sure that's improved, right?).

rvern 10y ago

> When you do that you have nothing but a Chrome clone left and why use a Chrome clone when you can use Chrome. Why use Chrome when you can use a Chrome clone that better respects your privacy, is open source, and gives you more freedom to configure it? Because it's more secure or faster? It won't be for long: that's exactly what Mozilla is working on. At the expense, yes, of some configurability.

Jaepa 10y ago
Security is debatable. Sand boxing was just introduced. Customizable maybe, but between the australis, xul deprecation, and the limited theming API I don't think Mozilla really cares. Also for a open source browser. Are you aware the is chromium? Or hell any number of electron based web browsers (which is also chromium). Edit and loss of configurability is not the issue. Loss of Functionality is.

cronjobber 10y ago

> why use a Chrome clone when you can use Chrome If every browser looked exactly like Chrome, I'd still choose the one that contained the least amount of Google.