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More specifically: point us to a lie of the kind of severity that http://usainfonews.com http://usainfonews.com and http://usapoliticszone.com http://usapolitic

More specifically: point us to a lie of the kind of severity that http://usainfonews.com http://usainfonews.com and http://usapoliticszone.com http://usapoliticszone.com peddle. Do a WHOIS on those sites or visit them in a sandbox; they're Macedonian in origin, demonstrably falsified, and have been spotted in the wild on Facebook.

em3rgent0rdr 10y ago
what does the phrase "Macedonian in origin" mean? I googled that and google is telling me about the historical origins of Macedonia. Are you making up that phrase? Are your trying to imply that the sources are ancient from a long time ago? Or do you mean they have "questionable" origins. If so, just say "questionable origins".
- burkaman 10y ago
  Macedonia is still around, that's a literal phrase. I don't know how you would tell from WHOIS, but apparently a lot of people in Macedonia are responsible for the most egregious fake news sites: http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-38168281 http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-38168281
  - em3rgent0rdr 10y ago
    thanks for clarifying!
  - facetube 10y ago
    Here's what I get from `whois usapoliticszone.com`. It's possible that the information is falsified, but it's hard to understand why a legitimate well-researched news site would list an individual in Macedonia with ICANN when they registered a domain: Domain Name: usapoliticszone.com Registry Domain ID: 2060737897_DOMAIN_COM-VRSN Registrar WHOIS Server: whois.godaddy.com Registrar URL: http://www.godaddy.com http://www.godaddy.com Update Date: 2016-09-20T18:54:39Z Creation Date: 2016-09-20T18:54:39Z Registrar Registration Expiration Date: 2017-09-20T18:54:39Z Registrar: GoDaddy.com, LLC Registrar IANA ID: 146 Registrar Abuse Contact Email: abuse@godaddy.com Registrar Abuse Contact Phone: +1.4806242505 Domain Status: clientTransferProhibited http://www.icann.org/epp#clientTransferProhibited http://www.icann.org/epp#clientTransferProhibited Domain Status: clientUpdateProhibited http://www.icann.org/epp#clientUpdateProhibited http://www.icann.org/epp#clientUpdateProhibited Domain Status: clientRenewProhibited http://www.icann.org/epp#clientRenewProhibited http://www.icann.org/epp#clientRenewProhibited Domain Status: clientDeleteProhibited http://www.icann.org/epp#clientDeleteProhibited http://www.icann.org/epp#clientDeleteProhibited Registry Registrant ID: Not Available From Registry Registrant Name: Angelina Gjorgjievska Registrant Organization: Registrant Street: Vera Ciriviri 177 Registrant City: Veles Registrant State/Province: Macedonia, Veles Registrant Postal Code: 1400 Registrant Country: MK Registrant Phone: +389.78459172 Registrant Phone Ext: Registrant Fax: Registrant Fax Ext: Registrant Email: healthyclub247@gmail.com
- facetube 10y ago
  I mean literally do a WHOIS query on those domains. They're registered to Macedonian citizens using addresses in Macedonia (a.k.a. the former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia).
  - em3rgent0rdr 10y ago
    ok, thanks for clarifying that it is literal expression.
soundwave106 10y ago
I can't understand why you are being downvoted here, except perhaps the political distraction. On this issue, the whole Trump / Obama / US politics angle really shouldn't be the point. It's pretty easy to find articles I would consider the original definition of "fake news" (conspiracy theory clickbait) that have nothing to do with Obama / Trump or US politics. To put it this way, I find nothing in more sober "mainstream news" that compares to headlines like "CDC works in collusion with vaccine manufacturers... can you really trust their “fake science?”" (http://www.naturalnews.com/2017-01-26-cdc-history-of-fake-science-shows-the-degree-of-collusion-and-criminality-behind-vaccines.html http://www.naturalnews.com/2017-01-26-cdc-history-of-fake-sc...). Or, in one of the sites you linked: "ONLY ONE SECRET IN FOODS CAN LITERALLY SAVE YOU FROM EVERYTHING" (http://usainfonews.com/index.php/2017/01/19/one-secret-foods-can-literally-save-everything/ http://usainfonews.com/index.php/2017/01/19/one-secret-foods...). (The secret... antioxidants can "cure" the "malignancy of oxygen" that causes all diseases... ???) It is the conspiracy mindset -- not necessarily the political angle -- that to me distinguished the original definition of fake news. Generally the original "fake news" tends to (as above) take small nuggets from questionable sources and utilize boogeymans based on institutional mistrust to weave their narrative. For instance, the "CDC is fake science" article seems to provide scant evidence for their narrative, other than testimonial from one scientist whose stance is... um... controversial (http://www.snopes.com/medical/disease/cdcwhistleblower.asp http://www.snopes.com/medical/disease/cdcwhistleblower.asp), a mis-characterization of flu shots as "vaccines", and Evil Shadowy Big Pharma corporations who coerce "fake science" for profit. The antioxidants article uses an extremely clickbait-y headline to peddle a pseudo-scientific promotion of antioxidants. This type of stuff has been around for a while ("conspiracy theories") so really it's nothing new. Still, for this reason, personally, I have issues with people lumping in the New York Times and Wall Street Journals of the world in the same "fake news" boat as these type of sites.

em3rgent0rdr 10y ago

what does the phrase "Macedonian in origin" mean? I googled that and google is telling me about the historical origins of Macedonia. Are you making up that phrase? Are your trying to imply that the sources are ancient from a long time ago? Or do you mean they have "questionable" origins. If so, just say "questionable origins".

burkaman 10y ago
Macedonia is still around, that's a literal phrase. I don't know how you would tell from WHOIS, but apparently a lot of people in Macedonia are responsible for the most egregious fake news sites: http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-38168281 http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-38168281
- em3rgent0rdr 10y ago
  thanks for clarifying!
- facetube 10y ago
  Here's what I get from `whois usapoliticszone.com`. It's possible that the information is falsified, but it's hard to understand why a legitimate well-researched news site would list an individual in Macedonia with ICANN when they registered a domain: Domain Name: usapoliticszone.com Registry Domain ID: 2060737897_DOMAIN_COM-VRSN Registrar WHOIS Server: whois.godaddy.com Registrar URL: http://www.godaddy.com http://www.godaddy.com Update Date: 2016-09-20T18:54:39Z Creation Date: 2016-09-20T18:54:39Z Registrar Registration Expiration Date: 2017-09-20T18:54:39Z Registrar: GoDaddy.com, LLC Registrar IANA ID: 146 Registrar Abuse Contact Email: abuse@godaddy.com Registrar Abuse Contact Phone: +1.4806242505 Domain Status: clientTransferProhibited http://www.icann.org/epp#clientTransferProhibited http://www.icann.org/epp#clientTransferProhibited Domain Status: clientUpdateProhibited http://www.icann.org/epp#clientUpdateProhibited http://www.icann.org/epp#clientUpdateProhibited Domain Status: clientRenewProhibited http://www.icann.org/epp#clientRenewProhibited http://www.icann.org/epp#clientRenewProhibited Domain Status: clientDeleteProhibited http://www.icann.org/epp#clientDeleteProhibited http://www.icann.org/epp#clientDeleteProhibited Registry Registrant ID: Not Available From Registry Registrant Name: Angelina Gjorgjievska Registrant Organization: Registrant Street: Vera Ciriviri 177 Registrant City: Veles Registrant State/Province: Macedonia, Veles Registrant Postal Code: 1400 Registrant Country: MK Registrant Phone: +389.78459172 Registrant Phone Ext: Registrant Fax: Registrant Fax Ext: Registrant Email: healthyclub247@gmail.com
facetube 10y ago
I mean literally do a WHOIS query on those domains. They're registered to Macedonian citizens using addresses in Macedonia (a.k.a. the former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia).
- em3rgent0rdr 10y ago
  ok, thanks for clarifying that it is literal expression.

soundwave106 10y ago

I can't understand why you are being downvoted here, except perhaps the political distraction. On this issue, the whole Trump / Obama / US politics angle really shouldn't be the point. It's pretty easy to find articles I would consider the original definition of "fake news" (conspiracy theory clickbait) that have nothing to do with Obama / Trump or US politics. To put it this way, I find nothing in more sober "mainstream news" that compares to headlines like "CDC works in collusion with vaccine manufacturers... can you really trust their “fake science?”" (http://www.naturalnews.com/2017-01-26-cdc-history-of-fake-science-shows-the-degree-of-collusion-and-criminality-behind-vaccines.html http://www.naturalnews.com/2017-01-26-cdc-history-of-fake-sc...). Or, in one of the sites you linked: "ONLY ONE SECRET IN FOODS CAN LITERALLY SAVE YOU FROM EVERYTHING" (http://usainfonews.com/index.php/2017/01/19/one-secret-foods-can-literally-save-everything/ http://usainfonews.com/index.php/2017/01/19/one-secret-foods...). (The secret... antioxidants can "cure" the "malignancy of oxygen" that causes all diseases... ???) It is the conspiracy mindset -- not necessarily the political angle -- that to me distinguished the original definition of fake news. Generally the original "fake news" tends to (as above) take small nuggets from questionable sources and utilize boogeymans based on institutional mistrust to weave their narrative. For instance, the "CDC is fake science" article seems to provide scant evidence for their narrative, other than testimonial from one scientist whose stance is... um... controversial (http://www.snopes.com/medical/disease/cdcwhistleblower.asp http://www.snopes.com/medical/disease/cdcwhistleblower.asp), a mis-characterization of flu shots as "vaccines", and Evil Shadowy Big Pharma corporations who coerce "fake science" for profit. The antioxidants article uses an extremely clickbait-y headline to peddle a pseudo-scientific promotion of antioxidants. This type of stuff has been around for a while ("conspiracy theories") so really it's nothing new. Still, for this reason, personally, I have issues with people lumping in the New York Times and Wall Street Journals of the world in the same "fake news" boat as these type of sites.