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Ah, don't you just love it when there's a simple technical problem with a simple and valid technical solution, but there's a legal problem that stops it dead?
by Qwertious 10y ago
Ah, don't you just love it when there's a simple technical problem with a simple and valid technical solution, but there's a legal problem that stops it dead?
Well, legal and whatever domain the "you viewed the ads but they werent tracked so we don't get money" problem falls into. Stupid artificial barriers which are there because they solve an economic problem, that wouldn't exist in a perfect world. Game theory, maybe.
- leephillips 10y agoI have the technical ability to steal lots of stuff. But yes, there are legal (and moral) obstacles that keep me from doing it.
- overcast 10y agoYou'd be OK with putting a ton of work into something, and then having it cached/ripoffed somewhere else?
- fao_ 10y agoGoogle and the Internet Archive already caches it. Also, if your work goes down for whatever (perhaps legal) reason, you know that people can still benefit from it. Caching it for when a site is overloaded is not ripping it off, just like sending copies of works to the British Library for archival purposes is not ripping the original work off.
- otterley 10y agoBoth of those sites can be instructed not to store copies of your pages for their caches or archives; and they will dutifully follow your instructions. Also, the library analogy doesn't work in copyright law. Copyright protects the act of copying, not the act of transferring an already-authorized copy of a work to someone else.
- justinhensley 10y agoThe trick in this solution is deciding when to flip the switch for the cached version. Perhaps a simple GET to the URL ever 60s. If you receive 5 non-200 responses in a row, then the HN link points to the archive.is version. Same method in reverse for bringing it back.
- fao_ 10y agoThat sounds like it would DDoS the site. Even better: monitor the comments for "site is down", or just provide a link to google's cached version as a button (Even better than the 'web' link we have at the moment).
- justinsaccount 10y ago> That sounds like it would DDoS the site How would one request per minute from a single server DoS the site, let alone DDoS it?
- quickConclusion 10y agoThis reminds me of the bird complaining: "if only there was no air slowing me down, I would fly a lot faster".
- mnutt 10y agoThe solution described above is pretty much what Google's AMP does. It turns out that a lot of people don't like AMP because they see it as a monopolistic way of keeping users in Google's walled garden. HN doesn't quite have a monopoly on startup/tech news, but I think the same reasons apply.
- sp332 10y agoSites opt-in to AMP, so copyright is less of an issue there.