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Facebook founder called trusting users dumb fucks

21 points by elleferrer 16y ago

macemoneta 16y ago
Mark Zuckerberg thought the IMs were private, but the terms changed.
- njharman 16y ago
  If true, he was a dumb fuck.
helwr 16y ago
well, aren't they?
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zaidf 16y ago
Cut Zuck a break. We are humans. We say stuff we don't necessarily mean. I am sure you can find equivalent off the record conversations from Gates, Ellison or anyone big name poking fun at how much power they have and how they could abuse it if they chose. To go back to when he was 19 and pull this out makes it even more ridiculous.
maqr 16y ago
He's still saying the same thing, just more eloquently now.
pg 16y ago
Jokingly, at 19, when referring to a project so much smaller than Facebook that it was really a different thing. Whatever you think about Facebook's privacy policies, this particular quote doesn't prove much. This post is an instance of linkbait meets lynchmob. I think we'll let that predictable conversation happen elsewhere.
- TomOfTTB 16y ago
  I agree on it not meaning much but let's not kid ourselves either. If you even joke about people being stupid for putting their trust in you than you probably aren't trustworthy. I had access to a pretty significant amount of user data when I was 19 too and I would have never joked about revealing it.
  - thunk 16y ago
    Really? I can excuse just about anything if it's really a joke. I would so not want to be held accountable for the literal meaning of my friends' and my typical banter.
Asdsad 16y ago
What crap, Tomorrow I will publish a piece saying paul graham called all submitter of YC as dumb fucks. And will everyone start believing it??? Whats the provenance of this information. Everyone who are taking this seriously are pure dimwits
TomOfTTB 16y ago
I see two basic truths here that make this comment seem irrelevant to me... 1. Users shouldn't put anything into Facebook that they wouldn't be willing to make public. Because even if Facebook never betrays your trust someone in your circle of friends surely could (Ever have a former lover turn into an enemy after a breakup?) 2. I don't doubt Zuckerberg still feels this way but it doesn't really matter. Because regardless of how he feels the economic future of his company is tied to being trusted by the consumer. So I think he'd share your secrets in a second if it was just about personal integrity but I don't think he'll risk billions of dollars to do so.
- Recontemplation 16y ago
  It always bugs me when people say stuff like this. Should you never say anything private in email or SMS? This position is untenable. The issue is that the institution is giving away your info not some ex girl friend.

21 points by elleferrer 16y ago

macemoneta 16y ago

Mark Zuckerberg thought the IMs were private, but the terms changed.

njharman 16y ago
If true, he was a dumb fuck.

helwr 16y ago

well, aren't they?

deleted 16y ago

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zaidf 16y ago

Cut Zuck a break. We are humans. We say stuff we don't necessarily mean. I am sure you can find equivalent off the record conversations from Gates, Ellison or anyone big name poking fun at how much power they have and how they could abuse it if they chose. To go back to when he was 19 and pull this out makes it even more ridiculous.

maqr 16y ago

He's still saying the same thing, just more eloquently now.

pg 16y ago

Jokingly, at 19, when referring to a project so much smaller than Facebook that it was really a different thing. Whatever you think about Facebook's privacy policies, this particular quote doesn't prove much. This post is an instance of linkbait meets lynchmob. I think we'll let that predictable conversation happen elsewhere.

TomOfTTB 16y ago
I agree on it not meaning much but let's not kid ourselves either. If you even joke about people being stupid for putting their trust in you than you probably aren't trustworthy. I had access to a pretty significant amount of user data when I was 19 too and I would have never joked about revealing it.
- thunk 16y ago
  Really? I can excuse just about anything if it's really a joke. I would so not want to be held accountable for the literal meaning of my friends' and my typical banter.

Asdsad 16y ago

What crap, Tomorrow I will publish a piece saying paul graham called all submitter of YC as dumb fucks. And will everyone start believing it??? Whats the provenance of this information. Everyone who are taking this seriously are pure dimwits

TomOfTTB 16y ago

I see two basic truths here that make this comment seem irrelevant to me... 1. Users shouldn't put anything into Facebook that they wouldn't be willing to make public. Because even if Facebook never betrays your trust someone in your circle of friends surely could (Ever have a former lover turn into an enemy after a breakup?) 2. I don't doubt Zuckerberg still feels this way but it doesn't really matter. Because regardless of how he feels the economic future of his company is tied to being trusted by the consumer. So I think he'd share your secrets in a second if it was just about personal integrity but I don't think he'll risk billions of dollars to do so.

Recontemplation 16y ago
It always bugs me when people say stuff like this. Should you never say anything private in email or SMS? This position is untenable. The issue is that the institution is giving away your info not some ex girl friend.