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503, seems we torched the place...

by digi_owl 10y ago

iso-8859-1 10y ago
http://archive.is/fQDKB http://archive.is/fQDKB
- saycheese 10y ago
  Please use non-tiny-URLs when possible: https://web.archive.org/web/20161206124221/http://www.brendangregg.com/linuxperf.html https://web.archive.org/web/20161206124221/http://www.brenda...
  - wfn 10y ago
    Archive.is is not related to web.archive.org, and the short URL is not a 'tiny' version of the latter. (That said, I agree with the general advice and think that tiny-fied URLs break the web.)
    - josteink 10y ago
      Shortened urls are gods way of giving you surprise goatse. Avoid. Always.
      - iso-8859-1 10y ago
        As if non-short URL's can be trusted... https://archive.is/umsFk#http://disney.com https://archive.is/umsFk#http://disney.com Or all the phishing domains...
mrsernine 10y ago
Seems like posting to HN is a good way to trigger a DDOS
- draugadrotten 10y ago
  HN the new /.
  - digi_owl 10y ago
    /. was the original, but since then sites like Reddit and HN, never mind facebook or G+, can also trigger a traffic spike. I seem to recall that the blog of some physicist hit the front of multiple such sites on the same day, effectively taking down the whole hosting service.
laurent123456 10y ago
I'm wondering why doesn't HN keeps a cached copy of each page that makes it to the front page (or maybe automatically post it to archive.is). I don't think it would be hard to implement and would avoid this quite frequent problem.
- konschubert 10y ago
  Because of copyright issues. People like traffic to their actual domain, because it often means better search engine ranking in the future. On top of that, some websites serve ads, which means that traffic is proportional to revenue.
  - mac01021 10y ago
    Could we pull up the real page from the actual domain in a full-window iframe and then replace it with the cached version if it fails to load?
    - majewsky 10y ago
      That will fail for a lot of websites since X-Frame-Options is becoming more common: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/HTTP/Headers/X-Frame-Options https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/HTTP/Headers/X-...
  - Qwertious 10y ago
    Ah, don't you just love it when there's a simple technical problem with a simple and valid technical solution, but there's a legal problem that stops it dead? Well, legal and whatever domain the "you viewed the ads but they werent tracked so we don't get money" problem falls into. Stupid artificial barriers which are there because they solve an economic problem, that wouldn't exist in a perfect world. Game theory, maybe.
    - leephillips 10y ago
      I have the technical ability to steal lots of stuff. But yes, there are legal (and moral) obstacles that keep me from doing it.
partycoder 10y ago
The HN hug of death.
overcast 10y ago
Apparently not enough performance.

503, seems we torched the place...

iso-8859-1 10y ago

http://archive.is/fQDKB http://archive.is/fQDKB

saycheese 10y ago
Please use non-tiny-URLs when possible: https://web.archive.org/web/20161206124221/http://www.brendangregg.com/linuxperf.html https://web.archive.org/web/20161206124221/http://www.brenda...
- wfn 10y ago
  Archive.is is not related to web.archive.org, and the short URL is not a 'tiny' version of the latter. (That said, I agree with the general advice and think that tiny-fied URLs break the web.)
  - josteink 10y ago
    Shortened urls are gods way of giving you surprise goatse. Avoid. Always.
    - iso-8859-1 10y ago
      As if non-short URL's can be trusted... https://archive.is/umsFk#http://disney.com https://archive.is/umsFk#http://disney.com Or all the phishing domains...

mrsernine 10y ago

Seems like posting to HN is a good way to trigger a DDOS

draugadrotten 10y ago
HN the new /.
- digi_owl 10y ago
  /. was the original, but since then sites like Reddit and HN, never mind facebook or G+, can also trigger a traffic spike. I seem to recall that the blog of some physicist hit the front of multiple such sites on the same day, effectively taking down the whole hosting service.

laurent123456 10y ago

I'm wondering why doesn't HN keeps a cached copy of each page that makes it to the front page (or maybe automatically post it to archive.is). I don't think it would be hard to implement and would avoid this quite frequent problem.

konschubert 10y ago
Because of copyright issues. People like traffic to their actual domain, because it often means better search engine ranking in the future. On top of that, some websites serve ads, which means that traffic is proportional to revenue.
- mac01021 10y ago
  Could we pull up the real page from the actual domain in a full-window iframe and then replace it with the cached version if it fails to load?
  - majewsky 10y ago
    That will fail for a lot of websites since X-Frame-Options is becoming more common: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/HTTP/Headers/X-Frame-Options https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/HTTP/Headers/X-...
- Qwertious 10y ago
  Ah, don't you just love it when there's a simple technical problem with a simple and valid technical solution, but there's a legal problem that stops it dead? Well, legal and whatever domain the "you viewed the ads but they werent tracked so we don't get money" problem falls into. Stupid artificial barriers which are there because they solve an economic problem, that wouldn't exist in a perfect world. Game theory, maybe.
  - leephillips 10y ago
    I have the technical ability to steal lots of stuff. But yes, there are legal (and moral) obstacles that keep me from doing it.

partycoder 10y ago

The HN hug of death.

overcast 10y ago

Apparently not enough performance.