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Not again. I do wish the KDE project would stop getting distracted by quixotic hardware and/or mobile projects and concentrate on building a killer desktop. I h

by ris 10y ago

Not again. I do wish the KDE project would stop getting distracted by quixotic hardware and/or mobile projects and concentrate on building a killer desktop. I hate to say it but parts of KDE today do feel worse than what we had ten years ago e.g. kmail2/akonadi which causes me pain on a daily basis.

sydd 10y ago
Also this thing feels like a cheap knockoff. Whats with the shitty website (looks like a mobile only site on my desktop) and the low quality graphics/photos? Also isnt this supposed to be a Linux machine? Why does it have a Windows key then? http://kde.slimbook.es/images/galeria/resizedimages/4_machine.jpg http://kde.slimbook.es/images/galeria/resizedimages/4_machin... Sorry, but the whole thing feels fake.
dguaraglia 10y ago
I don't mean to diss the KDE project, but my experience with KDE, ever since around 2., has been that it feels optimized for screenshots: Everything looks gorgeous* out of the box, but when you start actually using the destkop, a lot of things feel clunky, cluttered, buggy or they just don't make sense in the current world (Plasma, I'm looking at you.) I also can't understate the "buggy" part. I've never experienced as many crashes as when using applications in the KDE suite of utilities.
- flukus 10y ago
  It seems like KDE has always been too broadly focused instead of just trying to be a kickass desktop. Things like KOffice just seem to be unneccesary replication of effort to get prettier qt widgets. 10 years ago I KDE groupie, but on my latest install of gone with gnome and found the default themes (especially dark mode) to be much better. Also the fonts, I'm a programmer that wouldn't normally notice the difference between a serif and san-serif font, but whatever the gnome guys are doing looks absolutely gorgeous.
  - jpetso 10y ago
    There are a number of people who thought that having a KDE office suite was a good idea, they worked on it, KDE gladly welcomed them into the project and provided infrastructure & announcements. Those same people might have not worked on the bits that you value yourself even if they were forced off of KOffice (now Calligra). They likely contributed a number of bugfixes and expanded use cases for KDE libraries along the way. KDE still has a well-defined desktop environment project, you just can't force people into it that have a different agenda to begin with.
- fiddlerwoaroof 10y ago
  Back in the day, my preferred setup was Gnome 2 + KDE3 apps. Then, KDE4 happened and ruined most of the KDE apps, while Gnome 3 took care of the desktop environment. Since then, I've transitioned to roll-you-own desktop envs built around the tiling window manager stumpwm
- vacri 10y ago
  One of my workstations is Kubuntu 14.04. It looks amazing out of the box, but you have to turn the bling off to actually use it (I don't really need a bright blue shadow around the active window, for example). I really like it's old-school configurability, but you're right - it's way too buggy. Lots of little things that add up, and include freezes where I have to kill the plasma-desktop and restart it - how a non-techie is supposed to survive this, I don't know. I really like the configurability (gnome3 went in the opposite direction and declared that configurability was evil), but I think you nailed it with 'designed for screenshots'...
Apocryphon 10y ago
Sounds like the same brainbug that ate up Mozilla.
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by ris 10y ago

sydd 10y ago

Also this thing feels like a cheap knockoff. Whats with the shitty website (looks like a mobile only site on my desktop) and the low quality graphics/photos? Also isnt this supposed to be a Linux machine? Why does it have a Windows key then? http://kde.slimbook.es/images/galeria/resizedimages/4_machine.jpg http://kde.slimbook.es/images/galeria/resizedimages/4_machin... Sorry, but the whole thing feels fake.

dguaraglia 10y ago

I don't mean to diss the KDE project, but my experience with KDE, ever since around 2., has been that it feels optimized for screenshots: Everything looks gorgeous* out of the box, but when you start actually using the destkop, a lot of things feel clunky, cluttered, buggy or they just don't make sense in the current world (Plasma, I'm looking at you.) I also can't understate the "buggy" part. I've never experienced as many crashes as when using applications in the KDE suite of utilities.

flukus 10y ago
It seems like KDE has always been too broadly focused instead of just trying to be a kickass desktop. Things like KOffice just seem to be unneccesary replication of effort to get prettier qt widgets. 10 years ago I KDE groupie, but on my latest install of gone with gnome and found the default themes (especially dark mode) to be much better. Also the fonts, I'm a programmer that wouldn't normally notice the difference between a serif and san-serif font, but whatever the gnome guys are doing looks absolutely gorgeous.
- jpetso 10y ago
  There are a number of people who thought that having a KDE office suite was a good idea, they worked on it, KDE gladly welcomed them into the project and provided infrastructure & announcements. Those same people might have not worked on the bits that you value yourself even if they were forced off of KOffice (now Calligra). They likely contributed a number of bugfixes and expanded use cases for KDE libraries along the way. KDE still has a well-defined desktop environment project, you just can't force people into it that have a different agenda to begin with.
fiddlerwoaroof 10y ago
Back in the day, my preferred setup was Gnome 2 + KDE3 apps. Then, KDE4 happened and ruined most of the KDE apps, while Gnome 3 took care of the desktop environment. Since then, I've transitioned to roll-you-own desktop envs built around the tiling window manager stumpwm
vacri 10y ago
One of my workstations is Kubuntu 14.04. It looks amazing out of the box, but you have to turn the bling off to actually use it (I don't really need a bright blue shadow around the active window, for example). I really like it's old-school configurability, but you're right - it's way too buggy. Lots of little things that add up, and include freezes where I have to kill the plasma-desktop and restart it - how a non-techie is supposed to survive this, I don't know. I really like the configurability (gnome3 went in the opposite direction and declared that configurability was evil), but I think you nailed it with 'designed for screenshots'...

Apocryphon 10y ago

Sounds like the same brainbug that ate up Mozilla.

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