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There are fairly large and violent protests against Trump. His supporters are regularly attacked. This has been true ever since he was a serious candidate. htt

There are fairly large and violent protests against Trump. His supporters are regularly attacked. This has been true ever since he was a serious candidate. http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/riots-break-out-washington-over-9660568 http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/riots-break-out-wash... http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/inauguration-2017/anti-trump-protesters-pepper-sprayed-eve-inauguration-outside-deploraball-d-n709321 http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/inauguration-2017/anti-trum... http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2016/08/hillary-supporters-crash-trump-fundraiser-beat-rob-supporters-entering-mn-convention-center/ http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2016/08/hillary-supporters-c... https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2016/06/03/ugly-bloody-scenes-in-san-jose-as-protesters-attack-trump-supporters-outside-rally/ https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2016/06/0... In addition to violent (and some non-violent) protests, you also have direct action targeting his supporters. People who support Trump, or are mistakenly believed to support him, or just random passerby, are being assaulted (and in some cases, kidnapped or shot). https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/21/us/politics/richard-spencer-punched-attack.html?_r=0 https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/21/us/politics/richard-spenc... https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/jan/04/facebook-live-stream-video-man-attacked-chicago-trump https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/jan/04/facebook-liv... http://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/crime/police-release-man-arrested-in-uw-shooting/ http://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/crime/police-releas... Do these things count as "anything that matters"?

beaconstudios 10y ago
I might suggest clarifying where you stand on this, as right now it's ambiguous as to whether you are for or against these actions.
StavrosK 10y ago
> Do these things count as "anything that matters"? No. Those aren't protests, they're vigilantism.
maxerickson 10y ago
I'm pretty sure Spencer got punched in the face because he's a Nazi. As for the rest of it, it's a little hilarious to act like the non violent protests aren't the majority of activity. Just the Women's marches (which aren't just about Trump but are obviously responsive to his presidency) were more in number, both location wise and participation wise, than any violent actions that have happened. If you want to limit it to immigration protests, the non violent protests yesterday had higher participation than the totality of anti-Trump violence (http://dcist.com/2017/01/theres_a_rally_planned_at_white_hou.php http://dcist.com/2017/01/theres_a_rally_planned_at_white_hou... ).
- AlgorithmicTime 10y ago
  You can't just punch people in the face because they're Nazis. There's no way to do that that doesn't lead to an escalating violence cycle.
  - maxerickson 10y ago
    My comment is an analysis of the motivation for the punch not an analysis of punching as a tactic.
  - GFK_of_xmaspast 10y ago
    > You can't just punch people in the face because they're Nazis Sure you can.
- gspetr 10y ago
  Millions of people showed up to supposedly protest Trump, yet Hillary Clinton couldn't consistently rally even a thousand people without help from A-rank celebrities.

beaconstudios 10y ago

I might suggest clarifying where you stand on this, as right now it's ambiguous as to whether you are for or against these actions.

StavrosK 10y ago

> Do these things count as "anything that matters"? No. Those aren't protests, they're vigilantism.

maxerickson 10y ago

I'm pretty sure Spencer got punched in the face because he's a Nazi. As for the rest of it, it's a little hilarious to act like the non violent protests aren't the majority of activity. Just the Women's marches (which aren't just about Trump but are obviously responsive to his presidency) were more in number, both location wise and participation wise, than any violent actions that have happened. If you want to limit it to immigration protests, the non violent protests yesterday had higher participation than the totality of anti-Trump violence (http://dcist.com/2017/01/theres_a_rally_planned_at_white_hou.php http://dcist.com/2017/01/theres_a_rally_planned_at_white_hou... ).

AlgorithmicTime 10y ago
You can't just punch people in the face because they're Nazis. There's no way to do that that doesn't lead to an escalating violence cycle.
- maxerickson 10y ago
  My comment is an analysis of the motivation for the punch not an analysis of punching as a tactic.
- GFK_of_xmaspast 10y ago
  > You can't just punch people in the face because they're Nazis Sure you can.
gspetr 10y ago
Millions of people showed up to supposedly protest Trump, yet Hillary Clinton couldn't consistently rally even a thousand people without help from A-rank celebrities.